Can't do that with the Standard...no C1 or C2 button.....LOLFor example, those same stick movements but also having to press either one of the assignable bottom buttons. C1 and/or C2.
Can't do that with the Standard...no C1 or C2 button.....LOLFor example, those same stick movements but also having to press either one of the assignable bottom buttons. C1 and/or C2.
Someone brought that up and I understand but was just showing a move that's just as easy to do but with an extra level of complexity to remove an accident. There are other assignable buttons that can mean something else in conjunction with the stick combination, don't you think? I would think so.Can't do that with the Standard...no C1 or C2 button.....LOL
Strange. That's one of the reasons CSC is there for and it didn't work when you needed it? Also, the board is supposed to know when they are not in the sky based on their movement and shut off on their own. Double fail at least.I had a crash last week, p3s hit the top of a tall tree came crashing down and when I picked it up the motors were running at full speed and all the csc's I tried had no effect. Eventually after 2 or 3 minutes they stopped of their accord, if they hadn't Im not sure what I would have done except stand there for 15 minutes + until the battery ran out.
Maybe there should be a kill switch?
There's always the battery switch - just make sure you keep clear of the props.if they hadn't Im not sure what I would have done except stand there for 15 minutes + until the battery ran out.
We did have a spotless flight record for a few months; however, as my stick skill & confidence increased…so, too, did the risk of a CSC drop. PhantomHelp.com has a CSC Safety device (CSC Safety - Phantom Help) for $3. This is the least expensive insurance policy for a CSC drop and I won't fly without it.
Having never done a CSC in air I obviously havent tried to: Descend while in full yaw, backing up, and in full strafe. It really ISNT that easy to do a CSC.This is from DJI themselves.
Quite awesomely one of the techs at DJI listed the top ten reasons for their currently thousands of RMAS a month and guess what the #1 reason for RMAS is? It's not "fly aways", crashes, or anything else you might guess unless you guessed unintentional CSC motor kills.
I understand that the 2 seconds to kill the motors by putting the sticks on either of the lower corners sounds like a strange move to do but if you happen to be flying your Phantom with some fpv like moves or you are used to flying racing drones, it's not such a crazy move.
Or let's say you're descending and you happen to accidentally move the stick a little left or right and you at the same time start strafing left or right, it would not be too difficult to do the same on that side. Well in a couple nano seconds, your motors off bird is making a bee line to the ground.
Tip: it is possible to restart your motors during free fall but unless you are above 250 meters and do it right away, no chance of saving and even if you manage it, you need some luck based on how it's flying. The move is restart motor and IMEEDIATELY ascend up (no thottle forward). Test it in the sim.
I totally understand the need for a CSC fail safe should your bird go rogue and is heading towards a ton of people but if it's the number one RMA, it's obviously too easy to accidentally do. I do fly fpvs so my OCD has me constantly thinking to not accidently CSC and I never have but could totally understand if someone accidentally did and since it's by DJIs own admission the number one reason for RMAs, the solution to cut back on their RMAS is to fix this.
Real simple. Add one level of complexity to force a crash.
For example, those same stick movements but also having to press either one of the assignable bottom buttons. C1 and/or C2.
Proof is in the pudding. It's their main reason for crashing so they are probably putting more people at accidental risk then they are saving by having such an easy CSC. Never mind that they will seriously cut down on RMAs freeing up more time got R&D
Do you guys agree?
Fantastic post!Having never done a CSC in air I obviously havent tried to: Descend while in full yaw, backing up, and in full strafe. It really ISNT that easy to do a CSC.
For those who have done a CSC in flight, do you also turn on your blinker, and window wipers while slamming on the brakes at full lock going in reverse? Exactly...
If they say thats the number one reason for RMA return I completely agree it is, because most people wont know thats what happened, but I dont think thats the number one reason for crashing. 80+% of the crashes we get in the shop are pilot error like: I hit a tree, I hit a building, I pushed the wrong stick, I wasnt looking at the drone I was looking at the screen, etc etc. All those people KNOW its their fault for the crash and dont bother with an RMA because they know its not going to be covered under warranty. So your #1 reason for a crash I think is invalid, it may be the number one reason that people request an RMA number, and the #1 reason people try to get warranty service.
I think the CSC command is about the dumbest thing DJI has done. I don't care how rare it is... You can't tell me that this cant at least be modified. I know I know.. read the manual.. I know I know an unusual combination that would never happen in normal flight.. I know I know.. NEWB's bla blah blah... As smart as this quad is.. As sophisticated as the flight system is... Are you telling me that they can't come up with a better system.. How about these additions:I think the CSC in the mid-air (Combination Stick Command) should be fixed. It should have a fail safe button that needs to be pressed on the screen to initiate. Being able to have your aircraft drop out of the sky is never a good idea IMHO.
Contrary to what some people will tell you around here the CSC is mostly for dumping the bird in flight when you are out of control of it and you need it to dump either in a body of water or when it is approaching a school yard out of control and you need to kill it above a bunch of trees instead a bunch of children.I think the CSC command is about the dumbest thing DJI has done. I don't care how rare it is... You can't tell me that this cant at least be modified. I know I know.. read the manual.. I know I know an unusual combination that would never happen in normal flight.. I know I know.. NEWB's bla blah blah... As smart as this quad is.. As sophisticated as the flight system is... Are you telling me that they can't come up with a better system.. How about these additions:
1) CSC will not engage more than 10 feet above the launch point. As soon as you ascend over 10 feet.. Sorry.. You can't kill your bird and make it drop out of the sky on purpose.
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2) You can choose 1 of the 2 current CSC commands as an option or keep both. (your option)
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3) CSC will not engage when the UAV is moving more than X velocity
And I'm a dimwit.. I'm certain that the guys who develop the Phantom can come up with even better ideas..