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  1. Roadking

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    From what I understand, previous batteries should be charged and used to 50% a few times initially. Is that the same on the new P4 batteries?
    Thank you
     
  2. msinger

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    Phantom batteries do not need to be broken in. DJI has never recommended such a procedure.
     
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  3. Roadking

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    But I read it on the internet. It has to be true. ;)
    Thank you for clearing that up. Makes life easier too. :D
     
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  4. junito777

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    According to DJI-Ken from the DJI forum the batteries have to be broken in
     
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  5. maseman88

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    AND AWAYYYYYYY WE GO.
     
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    Then you should ask DJI-Ken why the company he works for makes no mention of breaking in the batteries?

     
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    :D
     
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  8. launchpad26

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    Why do I get the idea this thread is going to require a bag of popcorn and a BarcaLounger?


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  9. Marc Hufnagel

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    we need something to occupy us until the next firmware comes out LOL
     
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    Which will be too soon...


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    Since when Chinese instructions are complete, well traduced and don't lack information. ;)
     
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  12. Meta4

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    When questioned, Ken just says that he's always done it and believes it helps.
    He doesn't have any testing to back it up.
    So maybe it does work and maybe it doesn't
     
  13. RedHotPoker

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    I'd Rather err on the side of caution, what about you?
    Even on sale, these battery packs are pricey...

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  14. msinger

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    Would you agree that very few people attempt to break in their batteries? If so, how many of those people have complained that their batteries have died prematurely? I see very few cases of people reporting battery issues (not counting unbalanced cells).
     
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  15. RedHotPoker

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    I would need far more flights to see a significant change, but still think if there is a way to help preserve flight battery longevity, why not give it some faith? As far as statistics, if you don't break them in, and then have premature failure, who are you going to tell? Save face, buy more packs and move on... ;-)
    I have four intelligent flight batteries and two 100w chargers, so using mine, down to 50% charge was quite painless.

    Getting the most flight time per flight pack is important, but for me, not at the cost of shortening battery life. YMMV

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    From what I read lipo manufactuers say it is not neccessary, that being said test show that the dept of discharge will affect the amoung of battery cycles it can take. If you discharge a lipo to only 50% it may increase the possible amount of charge cycles of the battery 300%, lipo does nor suffer from cycle memory. So if you don't have to bring to the battery down real low exept when you really got to get home, don't do it. Lipo can take lots of small charge cycles. The way I see it if you do a brake in of the battery you do no harm. Does it help? Not really proven for lipo, dificult to measure theres to many variables that affect battery life. But we all like to stay up there as long as we can and for that I'm guilty too. I would try not to go under 10% unless you have no choice and never charge them when there hot. If they could just develop graphene batteries we would stay up for hours not minutes!
     
  17. RedHotPoker

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    So I guess these guys are Bullsh!tting us all then?
    What is the Lipo Break-In Cycle for the Intelligent Flight Battery? - Phantom Guide
    What is the Lipo Break-In Cycle for the Intelligent Flight Battery?
    The break-in for the Intelligent Flight Battery is the same as for all Lipo’s uses in hi discharge scenarios like multirotor craft.

    1: When you get the battery, fully charge it.
    2: Fly the aircraft until 50% battery remains. Land
    3: When cooled, charge the battery to 100% again and repeat step 2.
    4: Repeat this procedure 10 times.

    It will not makes your battery live forever and eventually you will need another but will keep the battery healthy. Also remember the battery care guide that’s available to download from DJI.


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  18. msinger

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    Who are those guys?
     
  19. m0j0

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    I'm curious.. If the batteries required "conditioning" why isn't that mentioned in the manual.

    Charge it 100 fly it... Monitor the voltage land it.


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  20. txhawg

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    I don't understand how "conditioning" benefits battery life