DJI GEO Coming to Your P3 Soon

[aka1ceman]

The clear answer.. the FAA does

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And if that is the case, then who is Airmap or Noflyorg to add places to a database that prevent my bird from flying because DJI wants to keep a good image?

 

[III% Streve]

Exactly!! They nobody. I imagine this is just an attempt by DJI to preempt registration.

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[aka1ceman]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller

 

[III% Streve]

Im tempted to take a road trip TO piss off a few hundred that think they can stop my flying just to get the legal cases started! Unfortunately, im not surrounded by idiots that think they can control me. Only 5 local.. local being like 40 miles

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[bobmyers]

All of this discussion about our rights regarding flying UAS which includes the P3 and "I am going to fly where I want attitude" is just asking for trouble. The FAA has total control over our model aircraft if they so choose.

Take a deep breathe and read and study the FAA regs-- the language is pretty simple.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/regulations_policies/media/FAA_UAS-PO_LEA_Guidance.pdf

These are serious regulations and the FAA is joining with Local Enforcement Agencies (LEA) to help them enforce these regs.

To be very simple, in the USA, all airspace can be controlled by the FAA when it comes to flying "aircraft" over or around it.

 

[aka1ceman]

Im tempted to take a road trip TO piss off a few hundred that think they can stop my flying just to get the legal cases started! Unfortunately, im not surrounded by idiots that think they can control me. Only 5 local.. local being like 40 miles

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Come here near DC....... it's full of idiots. Many of which will soon be making more new laws.

 

[III% Streve]

Been there.. hated it! Might run out to Denver!

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[aka1ceman]

All of this discussion about our rights regarding flying UAS which includes the P3 and "I am going to fly where I want attitude" is just asking for trouble. The FAA has total control over our model aircraft if they so choose.

Take a deep breathe and read and study the FAA regs-- the language is pretty simple.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/regulations_policies/media/FAA_UAS-PO_LEA_Guidance.pdf

These are serious regulations and the FAA is joining with Local Enforcement Agencies (LEA) to help them enforce these regs.

To be very simple, in the USA, all airspace can be controlled by the FAA when it comes to flying "aircraft" over or around it.

Problem is not with FAA as its more of a problem when someone emails a company like Noflyorg who has no jurisdiction and makes the owner feel all fuzzy inside by being "on the list" and has an officer at your door every time he thinks you were over your property line. Then, you have a company who sells these drones cow down so they look good on the news?

 

[III% Streve]

All of this discussion about our rights regarding flying UAS which includes the P3 and "I am going to fly where I want attitude" is just asking for trouble. The FAA has total control over our model aircraft if they so choose.

Take a deep breathe and read and study the FAA regs-- the language is pretty simple.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/regulations_policies/media/FAA_UAS-PO_LEA_Guidance.pdf

These are serious regulations and the FAA is joining with Local Enforcement Agencies (LEA) to help them enforce these regs.

To be very simple, in the USA, all airspace can be controlled by the FAA when it comes to flying "aircraft" over or around it.

I didnt say i was planning to do anything dangerous. Just using the law for what it is. Breath taken.. mission accepted!


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[III% Streve]

They can come to the door. Thats ok. Reverse it and charge for harassment.

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[bobmyers]

Problem is not with FAA as its more of a problem when someone emails a company like Noflyorg who has no jurisdiction and makes the owner feel all fuzzy inside by being "on the list" and has an officer at your door every time he thinks you were over your property line. Then, you have a company who sells these drones cow down so they look good on the news?

The problem comes from the FAA-- if there weren't regulations-- they wouldn't even have a list.

 

[III% Streve]

The problem comes from the FAA-- if there weren't regulations-- they wouldn't even have a list.

I guess you've lost me

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[aka1ceman]

They can come to the door. Thats ok. Reverse it and charge for harassment.

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Only thing that stinks about that is win or loose.... it cost lawyer fees, etc.

 

[bobmyers]

I guess you've lost me

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The list referred to above in @aka1ceman's post.

 

[aka1ceman]

The list referred to above in @aka1ceman's post.

What difference would any list actually make if DJI doesn't support it with their app that restricts use beyond what FAA allows?

 

[III% Streve]

Only thing that stinks about that is win or loose.... it cost lawyer fees, etc.

There is no financial cost to a cop at the door. Harassment charges dont cost YOU anything either. Beyond the time involved in pushing the state prosecutor.

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[sergekouper]

They are, in fact, doing what you "don't believe" they can. NoFlyZone.org and Airmap.io are both part of NoFlyZone, Inc. It's right there on every webpage and in the terms of use.

NoFlyZone.org, is actively encouraging people to register their property and promising to include it in their next database release to Airmap.io, which in turn will supply that data to their partners, currently DJI and 3D Robotics.

This is all very clear in NFZ.org's FAQ. As I posted earlier, it's really simple to get other people's property on the list too.

I based my answer on the DJI video and heard nothing about that. I checked Noflyzone.org and you're right you can ask to register your address as a NFZ. Didn't know about that. That's ok by me why not. But creating a NFZ on your neighbour's property? Do you think that you can cheat the system and give other people's address? They probably have a verification system that goes further than a name and an address, even with email address and phone verification. for ex: Google do that kind of verification to make sure to display real business addresses and send you a code by post to that address. Then you can enter this code and be listed at this address. Have you tried it to know how far it goes in verifying your details?
Also as I said DJI doesn't talk about that in their presentation, but mention "sensitive locations" permanent and temporary, not private residence in some list.

 

[III% Streve]

That's ok by me why not

Because its not legal! Thats no different that me making a website that denotes roadways as illegal to drive on if you register it here.

 

[sergekouper]

Because its not legal! Thats no different that me making a website that denotes roadways as illegal to drive on if you register it here.

I know, technically you don't own the airspace above your property. I understand it's not legal to make it a NFZ then. But...

 

[MADrone]

I think it's excellent news, It will keep people from flying where they have no business to be, and will make them accountable if they really want to fly there and something happens. At least it will force us to fly more responsibly. Sure it's going to upset those who think the sky belong to them... The way I see it is that DJI just reopened the NFZ. With conditions ok, but to me it's seems a very sensible improvement.

Agreed! I think it's a good approach and will be useful, as long as it works properly.