Adobe DNG P2V!

adampassphotography · Dec 30, 2013

Adobe Sr. Creative Director Russell Preston Brown posted an image of his first processed DNG file shot with the P2V on Facebook yesterday. Russell is working closely with DJI on the release of this update.

"I processed my first DNG Raw image from my Phantom 2 Vision camera today!
The official release date of this software update for the Vision will be announced soon. I am just testing it, but the results are looking VERY promising.
More detail in the highlights and MUCH less JPEG artifacting.." Russell Brown

Here is the link to his page:

https://www.facebook.com/russell.brown.9828

FASTFJR · Dec 30, 2013

Cool!

I want his job, love the old Adobe, hate the "New" Adobe

iResq · Dec 30, 2013

Great news!

MikeON · Dec 30, 2013

Really looking forward to this. After I remove the fisheye distortion and sharpen the pictures, the jpeg artifacts get pretty visible on the current jpeg images.

Pull_Up · Dec 30, 2013

Looks like it should be happening soon, then. I wonder if they will release this update before the ground station functions or roll them up into one big update?

Anyway I'm very happy as I have come across this: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ which means I can work with the RAW files in GIMP!

jengo · Dec 30, 2013

I am a new P2V owner and I am honestly a little annoyed to find out this is an unreleased feature. Why on earth can I take RAW photos but not actually load them ? They list this as a feature right on their website. Along with the 46mm filters that don't appear to exist either. Sure they will release them at some point, but they need to be clear about this.

I am really annoyed because I just took a ton of sunset pictures tonight and didn't even realize the current profile that they have on their website won't load the RAW images.

Klaus · Dec 30, 2013

Along with the 46mm filters that don't appear to exist either. Sure they will release them at some point, but they need to be clear about this.

Hi Im also new to all this, but Im not new to Photography. There are 100 of 46mm filters out there

Just take a look here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...prefix=46mm,null,398&rh=i:photo,k:46mm+filter

jengo · Dec 30, 2013

Klaus said:
Along with the 46mm filters that don't appear to exist either. Sure they will release them at some point, but they need to be clear about this.

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Hi Im also new to all this, but Im not new to Photography. There are 100 of 46mm filters out there

Just take a look here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...prefix=46mm,null,398&rh=i:photo,k:46mm+filter

The P2V has no threads on the lens, you need an adapter. If you look at the photo on their website there is a grey bar under the lens, which is the adapter required in order to attach filters.

http://www.dji.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... on_bg2.jpg

I can't find anyone who sells this, and this seems to be the only place it is shown or even referenced.

jengo · Dec 30, 2013

Pull_Up said:
Looks like it should be happening soon, then. I wonder if they will release this update before the ground station functions or roll them up into one big update?

Anyway I'm very happy as I have come across this: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ which means I can work with the RAW files in GIMP!

Have you opened up RAW images from the P2V ? I am not having any luck with GIMP.

Klaus · Dec 31, 2013

Hi Jengo

Ahhh I can see that now, but there must be a place to buy it :roll:

Pull_Up · Dec 31, 2013

jengo said:
Pull_Up said:

Looks like it should be happening soon, then. I wonder if they will release this update before the ground station functions or roll them up into one big update?

Anyway I'm very happy as I have come across this: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ which means I can work with the RAW files in GIMP!

Click to expand...

Have you opened up RAW images from the P2V ? I am not having any luck with GIMP.

No, the current RAW images are completely proprietary and unable to be opened by anything. Once the firmware update happens they will be saved in DNG RAW format. The above GIMP plugin/standalone will then work to open them up and play. I have simply tested the plugin with some DNG RAW files I found on the net to test it works.

gpauk · Dec 31, 2013

Pull_Up said:
jengo said:

Pull_Up said:

Looks like it should be happening soon, then. I wonder if they will release this update before the ground station functions or roll them up into one big update?

Anyway I'm very happy as I have come across this: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ which means I can work with the RAW files in GIMP!

Click to expand...

Have you opened up RAW images from the P2V ? I am not having any luck with GIMP.

Click to expand...

No, the current RAW images are completely proprietary and unable to be opened by anything. Once the firmware update happens they will be saved in DNG RAW format. The above GIMP plugin/standalone will then work to open them up and play. I have simply tested the plugin with some DNG RAW files I found on the net to test it works.

Yep -- the problem is guess the format! Free irfanview will also open raw files... if you know the settings....
I asked dji what the format is -- no reply....
Ho hum....

Elginet · Dec 31, 2013

I saw somewhere that Ragecams.com was offering a filter to remove the fisheye in the video. Personally, I'm not that impressed with the results from this camera to begin with, that I'd go through the expense of a $400.00 plus filter.

Also, as far as other adjustments go, if you're using lightroom or photoshop, you have the ability to open the JPG images as a RAW file and make whatever adjustments, remove the Fisheye (from stills) etc....

I spent all day yesterday flying my P2V only to come back with disappointing results, even though it was a perfect, crist and pretty clear Winter day. Video was fun. I'm a professional photographer so I may be over-critical of the stills, but I'll show you here what im talking about. (more images in the next post, I guess I can only post 2 at a time?)

Elginet · Dec 31, 2013

these are 100% zooms at different points in that same pic.

Pull_Up · Jan 1, 2014

DISCLAIMER: I'm not a pro photogrpaher, in fact I'm not really an amateur one either! And I apologise if you're already aware of any/all of the below.

* Ragecam is a lens replacement to kill the fisheye, nothing else needed but you have to send them your camera for surgery.

* The ability to take images in DNG RAW format is coming in a firmware update allegedly in the next month or so. The current RAW images are a proprietary RAW format that no one has managed to open. DNG will make RAW images from the Vision accessible pretty much universally.

* The images you take will be affected by movements the quad is making to hold position using GPS. If you take a burst of 3 or 5 shots at a time you might get a lucky one without much movement. Calm days will get the best shots, although be aware that winds aloft can be much stronger than at the surface, even just a couple of hundred feet up.
Alternatively (if you are happy to do so) you can change from Vision mode to NAZA mode in the Assistant software which will allow you to use Attitude mode. This levels the aircraft but doesn't hold GPS position, so you'll drift downwind. Flip side is that your stills should be crisper as the aircraft won't be making constant adjustments guided from its GPS. Obviously read up on all the other issues this will introduce before going ahead (different LED notification signals, switch positions and what they do, activation of IOC, etc).

mikeboruta · Jan 1, 2014

Elginet said:
I spent all day yesterday flying my P2V only to come back with disappointing results, even though it was a perfect, crist and pretty clear Winter day. Video was fun. I'm a professional photographer so I may be over-critical of the stills, but I'll show you here what im talking about.

I too was disappointed with the amount of noise seen when zooming in on stills from the Vision. My photos looked the same (plus a ton of blurriness on the left 1/3 of the frame which led me to send the P2V back for a new camera). I've never had a camera that shoots in RAW. I'm hoping that having all the extra info (20mb files vs 2-3mb files) will provide some more detail and sharpness.

mitchsden · Jan 1, 2014

Hopefully the DNG conversion should not be too far away, Russell Preston Brown from Adobe posted the first images on his FB page
the other day. Apparently the lens profile will also need to be re-written to work with the DNG files.

Waiting for a new camera for mine, right hand side focus issue

I feel sure he won't mind me posting one of his images, looks quite impressive.

Full size image
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 3345_o.jpg

Pull_Up · Jan 1, 2014

Nice photo! Is it just my dodgy eyes or does he have a little softness on the left, too? Seems most noticeable on the cliff edge... Could be the focus type used, I guess.

mitchsden · Jan 1, 2014

Pull_Up said:
Nice photo! Is it just my dodgy eyes or does he have a little softness on the left, too? Seems most noticeable on the cliff edge... Could be the focus type used, I guess.

I think you may be correct.

He does produce some nice images, but I have noticed that most of the 6 pic Panos he does are
always sharp, think he either has a perfect camera, or starts his first picture so he can crop
away the blurred part. I am not sure if this one is a vertical Pano that he has cropped somehow.

jengo · Jan 1, 2014

I have found that like most small sensor cameras, it requires a lot of lot to get sharp crisp pictures. So far, my low light tests have been rather poor results.

Why pay $400 for a lens corrector when you can just do it in software. Here is so far my best. The lens corrected version I did increase the saturation a little bit because the water and sky looked dull previously.

I posted the images as links because they are full size and I can't seem to resize them using BBCode.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7310/11642835055_b9b167532c_o.jpg

http://joped.com/tmp/bay_bridge_unmodified_2013-12-26.jpg