Re: I laugh when I hear people say "Amazon Air will never wo
Here is one analysis:
http://www.bradsblog.com/2013/12/debunk ... rones.html
Here is one analysis:
http://www.bradsblog.com/2013/12/debunk ... rones.html
Koz said:There's actually a far more simple reason why drone delivery will not be profitable. Unruly teens, gang members, idiots, and ne'er do wells will do everything they can to knock them out of the sky and steal the merchandise. And if Amazon employs a drop off hub like Locker then the bad guys will easily learn the route and be on the lookout for deliveries.
Guns, rocks, cheapie drones, and even jamming radio frequencies could all pose a threat to delivery drones. And you can bet that the bad guys will be creative and find more and more ways to knock the deliveries out of the sky.
Clipper707 said:Koz said:There's actually a far more simple reason why drone delivery will not be profitable. Unruly teens, gang members, idiots, and ne'er do wells will do everything they can to knock them out of the sky and steal the merchandise. And if Amazon employs a drop off hub like Locker then the bad guys will easily learn the route and be on the lookout for deliveries.
Guns, rocks, cheapie drones, and even jamming radio frequencies could all pose a threat to delivery drones. And you can bet that the bad guys will be creative and find more and more ways to knock the deliveries out of the sky.
Good point. Anything from slingshots to jammers. It was interesting how Timmy used medicine as an example of something one might need immediately.
It's hard to imagine all of the safeguards required to ensure safe delivery of pharmaceuticals. So much as to make it impractical or impossible.
syotr said:Here is one analysis:
http://www.bradsblog.com/2013/12/debunk ... rones.html
My thoughts exactly...Koz said:There's actually a far more simple reason why drone delivery will not be profitable. Unruly teens, gang members, idiots, and ne'er do wells will do everything they can to knock them out of the sky and steal the merchandise. And if Amazon employs a drop off hub like Locker then the bad guys will easily learn the route and be on the lookout for deliveries.
Guns, rocks, cheapie drones, and even jamming radio frequencies could all pose a threat to delivery drones. And you can bet that the bad guys will be creative and find more and more ways to knock the deliveries out of the sky.
Big difference between sending a small quad with bottle of pills across the water to the island vs. thousands of heavy octocopters flying over populated cities and highways.Khudson7 said:DHL in Germany, has already started drone delivery service.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...nches-first-commercial-drone-delivery-service
I don't understand why people act that way. If they ever expect help at all, that is a poor way to get it. It doesn't take long to be flagged in peoples minds. But this happens on most forums. I am a member of three or more welding forums, a couple of experimental helicopter man carrying forums, photography forums, machining forums including CNC. They all have trolls, or people that are hard to get along with. I built a Cnc router/plasma table in about 2006. Got my info from CNC ZONE. The only forum I have been a member of with absolute none of this bs is Vetric. It's the company that designed the cad software I use. Good people and smart. Neve have heard a bad word there. Always ready to help no matter how many times a question is asked. They're too busy being productive and have no time for bs.
syotr said:Big difference between sending a small quad with bottle of pills across the water to the island vs. thousands of heavy octocopters flying over populated cities and highways.Khudson7 said:DHL in Germany, has already started drone delivery service.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...nches-first-commercial-drone-delivery-service
Khudson7 said:La Poste in France, are using drones for deliveries...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Poste-develops-drone-to-deliver-parcels.html
The point here, is it has already started...with todays technology. And the world is not waiting while the FAA is dragging its' feet.
Of course, these are remote areas. What better place to start in.
It does seem like a number of naysayers immediately jump to all the problems inherent with drone delivery in trying to deliver to a person that lives on the 42nd story of a 68 story high rise, in Manhattan. Then they leap to the conclusion...it will never work.
No question it will start on a small scale. But when I read these and other articles, like NASA is beginning to work on a Drone Air Traffic control system, similar to the present air traffic control system, sensors being developed with a sense and avoid technology, redundant safety systems, autonomous computer generated drone flights, etc....one has to wonder where this might lead in 5 or 10 years. Maybe the Manhattan example may not happen, but surely some form will...if all these companies like Google, Amazon, Facebook, DHL, and others are pouring monies into making it happen.
From the article you linked:Khudson7 said:La Poste in France, are using drones for deliveries...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Poste-develops-drone-to-deliver-parcels.html
If the FAA doesn't grant Amazon's request, the company will move their drone research operations outside of the U.S
Khudson7 said:La Poste in France, are using drones for deliveries...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Poste-develops-drone-to-deliver-parcels.html
The point here, is it has already started...with todays technology. And the world is not waiting while the FAA is dragging its' feet.
Of course, these are remote areas. What better place to start in.
It does seem like a number of naysayers immediately jump to all the problems inherent with drone delivery in trying to deliver to a person that lives on the 42nd story of a 68 story high rise, in Manhattan. Then they leap to the conclusion...it will never work.
No question it will start on a small scale. But when I read these and other articles, like NASA is beginning to work on a Drone Air Traffic control system, similar to the present air traffic control system, sensors being developed with a sense and avoid technology, redundant safety systems, autonomous computer generated drone flights, etc....one has to wonder where this might lead in 5 or 10 years. Maybe the Manhattan example may not happen, but surely some form will...if all these companies like Google, Amazon, Facebook, DHL, and others are pouring monies into making it happen.
N017RW said:Since that article was published India has banned all drones (for now?).
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-d ... es-2024734
Actually, I think you and I are pretty close in agreement. I however, did a take on what appeared to be some, as saying it will never happen, as some have used my Manhattan example above, and you did a take on my comments that it might happen tomorrow.Buckaye said:Khudson7 said:La Poste in France, are using drones for deliveries...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Poste-develops-drone-to-deliver-parcels.html
The point here, is it has already started...with todays technology. And the world is not waiting while the FAA is dragging its' feet.
Of course, these are remote areas. What better place to start in.
It does seem like a number of naysayers immediately jump to all the problems inherent with drone delivery in trying to deliver to a person that lives on the 42nd story of a 68 story high rise, in Manhattan. Then they leap to the conclusion...it will never work.
No question it will start on a small scale. But when I read these and other articles, like NASA is beginning to work on a Drone Air Traffic control system, similar to the present air traffic control system, sensors being developed with a sense and avoid technology, redundant safety systems, autonomous computer generated drone flights, etc....one has to wonder where this might lead in 5 or 10 years. Maybe the Manhattan example may not happen, but surely some form will...if all these companies like Google, Amazon, Facebook, DHL, and others are pouring monies into making it happen.
I don't know about the whole "naysayers" thing.... Part of problem solving is identifying the problems and coming up with solutions. I can say, representing only myself, that the hurdles that many list - are more likely reasons it won't happen on a large scale anytime soon. I guess just throwing up your hands and saying it will NEVER happen I can see as naysaying - but a lot of people are just debating a pretty large number of hurdles that need to be overcome to make this something meaningfully useful to the common consumer.
Will someone like Amazon, fedex or DHL make it happen on some scale? sure. I actually have very little doubt about that. But it will take solving a LOT of the "naysayers" logistical and technical problems to make it work beyond a very tactical or gimmicky way.
The OP keeps insisting that this service is coming "someday soon" and it will be used all over the place. I think a lot of us are of the mindset that if we can think of a dozen technical and logistical problems that don't have a clear solution right off the top of our heads - we also can sense that finding solutions for those problems will take time.
I agree with you (and a lot of others) that on some small scale it will happen.. and maybe even relatively soon. But there are an S-Ton of logistic and technical hurdles to be solved before businesses start offering this service in a way and at a cost that even comes close to delivery systems already humming along with great efficiency. Not impossible - just not tomorrow.