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How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 500' !

Discussion in 'Phantom 2 Vision + Discussion' started by Edmond, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. Edmond

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    I'm a newbie to the Phanton 2 Vision + so please excuse me...

    I hear about guys flying 1000+ feet with their Phantom 2 Vision +, but if I get higher than about 400-500' (vertically above me) it loses signal and flashes up the returning home icon. I have new batteries plus everything is fully charged on Phantom 2+ in addition to the receiver on top of controller.

    I even purchased the FPV booster ap at the suggestion of a friend and I think it helped but not more than about 100'.

    I'm running it through an IPhone if that's any help

    Any ideas?

    Thanks !!
     
  2. dragonash

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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    dont fly straight above. You need some horizontal distance as well
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Also helps to tilt your controller so the face of the repeater and the side of the controller antenna are perpendicular to the Phantom...

    Also... make sure you are in fcc mode and not ce ... you should be hearing two beeps when you turn on your controller to confirm fcc mode as the stronger transmit signal :ugeek:
     
  4. Edmond

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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Thanks for taking the time to reply. I just took it up again at about a 45 degree angle to my position and it still lost signal at about 500' with the FPV booster enabled. Any other ideas?
     
  5. Edmond

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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Thanks DBS, I will try your suggestion regarding the antenna. You mean point the antenna at the Phantom do you?

    Yes I just turned on the controller and it beeped twice.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    FPV booster doesn't help with losing control signal and getting "return to home"... it only aids with the video signal...

    There are so many factors regarding lack of control range...

    Are the antennas in your landing gear straight with no bends or kinks...?
    Did you check the potentiometer on the back of your controller to see that it is turned all the way clockwise and set the mode to fcc in Phantom assistant software...?
    How much range do you get in distance? ... if that range is short too it may mean you have a controller issue...? :ugeek:

    No... pointing the controller antenna at the Phantom makes it worse... you should point the "side" of the antenna at the Phantom...

    Like the side of this letter "I" is pointing at the letter "O" ... I - - - O ... if the Phantom is up in the air... tilt the antenna like so ... \ °
     
  7. Edmond

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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Thanks for your time, I have been pointing the antenna at the Phantom, that's maybe part of my problem. It seems like once I get to around 500' I lose connection, then it comes back, then I lose it again and it says returning home etc.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    That is probably ALL of your problem... dipole (or rubber ducky) antennas have a major dead spot right straight off the tip... if you aim it at the Phantom like a gun it is the worst possible signal from that antenna...

    I seen this diagram awhile back that makes it visually more understandable...

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Edmond

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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Thanks for posting the diagram. Believe it or not, with the antenna angled as you showed in your diagram - I still only get around 500' before I lose signal.

    I swapped the controller batteries for new duracells to make sure they weren't bad, but still only got to around 500' before I lost signal. I hooked it up to the DJI software to make sure there wasn't any limits set, but no.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Can you tell us a bit more about where you're flying, Edmond. Is it open space? Are there any trees, buildings, power-lines or cell-phone towers?
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50


    dbs covered everything in terms of connection...

    maybe you have a limit set in your assistant software?
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Flip the controller over.
    2 holes on the right hand side.
    The one above is the 7th channel (tilt control-not functional)
    The below is the CE/FCC adjustment. FInd a Phillips head and turn it all the way to the right. I think this boost the TX power. Be careful as it doesn't turn much. And make sure the transmitter/remote beeps 2wice when powered.
    Like others have said, If the phantom is right above you, then make your antenna parallel to the ground.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    I have read that only activate FFC with software is enough. Do i need to adjust this screw also?
    Only with software i get 900 m, then i lost control but no lost the video fpv. I use vision plus utility
    Thx in advance
    Thx in advance
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Where I flew yesterday had no trees, poles, wires or anything. A nice open area.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Okay, and can you confirm that you are in FCC mode. In other words, your RC controller beeps twice when you turn it on and when you connect it to the DJI RC system assistant software it shows the 'FCC' radio button as selected?
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    WOW! Lots of good info here. The manual shows the antenna pointing in the up position. Looks as if the horizontal position works best. Is anyone at DJI reading these postings?
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Flying high is certainly an adrenaline rush. I don't want to say exactly how high I was in this video, but I'm sure ya'll can closely guess. The thing to remember is you can't see it, you can't hear it, and you only have FPV to rely on. With all that said, I would have never been able to fly that high without my soda can modification. I wasn't able to maintain 1000ft on my current PV2+ (sold my other one), but with the soda can mode, I can make it over 1500ft easily and fly around, but like I said, its different flying around at that altitude and I wouldn't recommend it but to maybe do one distance check on your equipment.

    http://vimeo.com/103860792
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Don't know if someone touched on this but you may have to hook it up to a PC and connect to the software and change the altitude setting. The parameters may be set up to only let it go that high
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Loving this DBS LMAO.
    Seems every other week we have to explain that pointing doesn't mean the tip but the side of the antenna.
     
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    Re: How do you guys fly so high? I can only get to around 50

    Stole that picture, were going to need that in the future.