is it legal for someone to have a drone jammer.

[K9VXV]

Here is a snippet from the specs page. It claims to jam GPS too. That's really safe... [emoji135]‍Don't all civilians use L1?


"CT-3060N-UAV Drone RC 433Mhz 868Mhz 912Mhz 2.4Ghz 5.8Ghz GPS L1 High Power 127W Jammer up to 600m

Cover All 100% Commercial Drones / UAVs Like Dji Phantom 4, Phantom 3 Professional, Advanced, Standard series, Inspire Series...

6 bands frequency :
1. RC 2.4Ghz WIFI 2400-2500MHz 20W
2. RC 2.4Ghz WIFI 2400-2500MHz 20W
3. RC 868Mhz and 912Mhz 860-928Mhz 25W
4. RC 433/434Mhz 20W
5. GPS L1 1575Mhz 40W
6. 5.8Ghz 5.5-5.9Mhz 2W ( 15W additional in Order option )
TOTAL: 127W

Jamming Range: Radius 300~600 meters
The jamming distance always varied depending on the signal strength, antennas and location.
Good cooling system with Heat sink and 3 big on top fans + 2 x small inside, low noise
Each frequency band is separate and with adjustable power from Max to OFF(0)
100% Safe VSWR over protection (Isolator) for each modular
Power supply: AC110 or 220-240V /DC 27V
Working time: Without the time limit, may continue to work
Antennas Omni 500mm long
Dimension: 550 x 190 x 60mm
Weight: 10Kg

Package contents:
1pc Desktop Jammer"

And then this, lol. "UAV Quadcopters and drones are becoming a nuisance and can compromise your privacy as they are becoming cheaper every day and more available. We carry a specialized range of jammers designed to distrupt remote control (RC) of a drone/quadcopter or its gps signal and most of them will automatically slowly ground itself. Drones can be more than just an annoyance. Because they can reach high into the air, on the ground, and in the water, drones literally add a new dimension to eavesdropping and spying on facilities, individuals and infrastructures in a wide variety of environments and industries. They have the power to shrink the realm of public safety, privacy and physical security. Few other technologies have this much power. Are drones spying on you? Stealing your top secrets? Watching your movements? Exposing your contacts? Drone laws remain ambiguous worldwide and it will take governments years to set limits on the ways in which drones can be used. Drones can even be used as a explosives carrier or as a terrorist propaganda on a mayor aired sports and cultural events."

 

[N017RW]

Congrats Don.
You're now on a 'watch list'!

But your license appears to be expired anyways.

(wink-wink, LOL)

 

[K9VXV]

Congrats Don.
You're now on a 'watch list'!

But your license appears to be expired anyways.

(wink-wink, LOL)

Don was the prior holder. I think he is now a silent key. My license is valid but I am just a simple technician so therefor I know not much except for what others will teach me

 

[N017RW]

Cool. Just josh'n ya anyways

73s

 

[Sasquad]

It is not, I repeat, not legal to jamb any radio frequencies in th US. That simple, turn him in to the FCC.

 

[chadrob30]

It's clear the OP is not going to report him, talk to him, burn his house down, jam his kid's Mavic etc. Stop replying to this thread and let it die.

 

[Mr. Salty]

After some thought, I do not believe the OP's neighbor is completely in the wrong, as it is his property, but if he really does feel he needs to have a jammer/blocker for his "security", at least keep it within your own property lines.

Actually, the neighbor IS completely in the wrong. The OP was flying over land near his neighbor's property, not over the neighbor's property. And the jammer extends well beyond his property lines. This is patently illegal under FCC regulations.

 

[Erised]

As previously said by one of us, if your bird looses signal it should RTH. Several months ago I unknowingly flew between two new cell towers about 4+ miles apart at their antenna elevation and my bird auto RTH.
At first I had no idea what that was all about because I was not very far from take off, then several days later when driving home and looking at one tower I checked to see the other and though I must have been between them. So when I got home I took out my bird and flew safely between them (over a field) and TADA the bird auto RTH again. I hope and think that jammers' would only disconnect us from our RC.

 

[Sasquad]

Have been following this thread pretty closely and reading. After some thought, I do not believe the OP's neighbor is completely in the wrong, as it is his property, but if he really does feel he needs to have a jammer/blocker for his "security", at least keep it within your own property lines. I have already been asked by a neighbor not to fly over his house, and legally, there isn't much he can do, but I don't want to invade his privacy and become the neighborhood "spying drone person". I just fly around.

You can't jamb any radio frequencies, anywhere in the US. It is not going to go well for him if he is turned in to the FCC. His property or not.

 

[kirkdickinson]

Illegal jammers can cause real world problems and endanger lives. I remembered a story about a truck drive that didn't want his boss to know where he was all the time, or maybe he wanted to avoid paying GPS based tolls. He had a GPS jammer in his truck that he would turn on when he didn't want the system to know where he was. Occasionally he came close to Newark Liberty International Airport, and the GPS jammer would knock off the airport's GPS for its multimillion dollar automatic landing system. They finally caught the guy and he got slammed with a big fine. Can't find the original story, but the Airport spent weeks trouble shooting their system. I guess it would go offline when an airplane was on final approach, and then suddenly come back online. Something to do with a GPS transponder/locator at the end of the runway. The Airport finally got some specialists out there with the right type of equipment and found where the signal originated from. Took them a while to find the guy. They were MAD.

Here is one story about it.
N.J. man fined $32K for illegal GPS device that disrupted Newark airport system

I also saw a story somewhere about a GPS jammer that one surveying company planted with a magnet on the bottom of their competitor's field truck. The victim's 50K+ GPS surveying equipment wouldn't work. They would go back to the shop and pick up other equipment that they knew was good, and when they were in the field, it wouldn't work. Surveyors are always on a tight time schedule and that kind of stuff can cause them to lose work.

 

[Sasquad]

Seriously, you need to call the FCC and report this hardware. If it will jam a drone's signal, it can also interfer with wifi, cellular, possibly emergency communications also. It would be good to know what frequencies it covers and what the ERP is.
Good luck!
Jim
WA5TEF

Well said, and exactly why it is illegal.[emoji601]

 

[kirkdickinson]

Why would a jammer cause a drone to drop.
If he swamps the RC signal, your Phantom doesn't fall, it just sits there.
And if it sits for 3 seconds without signal, it comes home..

Depends on which frequencies he is jamming. If the GPS gets jammed, I imagine the drone will either continue flying with the last command until it gets through the interference, or will hover until the battery is low and it auto lands where it is.... Dropping into the swamp.

 

[cctx-xx]

Here is a snippet from the specs page. It claims to jam GPS too. That's really safe... [emoji135]‍Don't all civilians use L1?


"CT-3060N-UAV Drone RC 433Mhz 868Mhz 912Mhz 2.4Ghz 5.8Ghz GPS L1 High Power 127W Jammer up to 600m

Cover All 100% Commercial Drones / UAVs Like Dji Phantom 4, Phantom 3 Professional, Advanced, Standard series, Inspire Series...

6 bands frequency :
1. RC 2.4Ghz WIFI 2400-2500MHz 20W
2. RC 2.4Ghz WIFI 2400-2500MHz 20W
3. RC 868Mhz and 912Mhz 860-928Mhz 25W
4. RC 433/434Mhz 20W
5. GPS L1 1575Mhz 40W
6. 5.8Ghz 5.5-5.9Mhz 2W ( 15W additional in Order option )
TOTAL: 127W

Jamming Range: Radius 300~600 meters
The jamming distance always varied depending on the signal strength, antennas and location.
Good cooling system with Heat sink and 3 big on top fans + 2 x small inside, low noise
Each frequency band is separate and with adjustable power from Max to OFF(0)
100% Safe VSWR over protection (Isolator) for each modular
Power supply: AC110 or 220-240V /DC 27V
Working time: Without the time limit, may continue to work
Antennas Omni 500mm long
Dimension: 550 x 190 x 60mm
Weight: 10Kg

Package contents:
1pc Desktop Jammer"

And then this, lol. "UAV Quadcopters and drones are becoming a nuisance and can compromise your privacy as they are becoming cheaper every day and more available. We carry a specialized range of jammers designed to distrupt remote control (RC) of a drone/quadcopter or its gps signal and most of them will automatically slowly ground itself. Drones can be more than just an annoyance. Because they can reach high into the air, on the ground, and in the water, drones literally add a new dimension to eavesdropping and spying on facilities, individuals and infrastructures in a wide variety of environments and industries. They have the power to shrink the realm of public safety, privacy and physical security. Few other technologies have this much power. Are drones spying on you? Stealing your top secrets? Watching your movements? Exposing your contacts? Drone laws remain ambiguous worldwide and it will take governments years to set limits on the ways in which drones can be used. Drones can even be used as a explosives carrier or as a terrorist propaganda on a mayor aired sports and cultural events."

"TOTAL: 127W" Hah!

 

[V tail]

I would maintain that if the neighbor was using a jammer, there would be a lot of collateral disruptions. These disruptions would lead to angry people when their phone calls, facebook live and facetime conversations were interrupted.

Everyone here should listen to the ham nerds as they know what they are talking about.....73's and all....They are correct that the FCC takes cellphone interference very seriously. General radio interference, not so much.

Rogers Park man accused of jamming cell calls on Red Line train

 

[Kawboy12R]

This guy needs to be reported. 2.4ghz is used for a lot of things. Cordless phones for one. His neighbors could be buying new phones uselessly or, worse, be trying to call 911 from now useless phones. Then there's the neighbors whose GPS won't work at home, surveyors, etc etc etc. Just spend a few minutes thinking about all the money, inconvenience, frustration, and possibly danger he's putting his neighbors through and in. I do like the neighborhood letter idea about wifi problems maybe getting him to rethink things without turning him in.

 

[Providian623]

Buying a jammer is not illegal. Using it is. A while back a bunch of restaurants employed jammers to stop cell calls while people were eating. Some movie theaters used them to stop people from talking on cell phones doing movies. All got a nasty "cease & desist" from the governmental powers, that be.

 

[Russ43Phantom]

It would seem jamming is illegal, but it's a big world with many other places to fly. While focusing on what is legal, do your part by maintaining a meaningful LOS

 

[jayeverts]

my guess is it would depend on the legality of his jammer and your willingness to get into a fight when you might be flying beyond line of sight - you can only make a complaint if you are 100% in the right. He could also easily deny using any such device. I'd either come to some sort of compromise with him ir fly somewhere else.

Jammer isn't illegal to own or purchase. Totally illegal to use without fcc permissiln. One hotel was fined $600, 000 for using one for cell phones.

 

[outdoorslife308]

The only place I know of is a local gun store with a warehouse, where there is multiple $25K-$50K guns. Talked to an employee wondering why my cellular service was dropping dramatically when I walked into the store, he said it was a jammer that was part of the security system there. It doesn't extend past the walls of the store and they have a certificate posted from the government that shows they are allowed to use it.

 

[V tail]

The only place I know of is a local gun store with a warehouse, where there is multiple $25K-$50K guns. Talked to an employee wondering why my cellular service was dropping dramatically when I walked into the store, he said it was a jammer that was part of the security system there. It doesn't extend past the walls of the store and they have a certificate posted from the government that shows they are allowed to use it.

Sorry.....But I gotta call bunk on this one. The FCC denied the County of Cook and Illinois Department of Corrections waivers for cell jamming devices to be used in correctional facilities. I highly doubt Cletis' Gun Emporium has an, "FCC approved" cell jamming device.