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gword256 said:Did any of you buy your Phantom locally? I don't see any dealers in the DFW area except down towards Austin.
I've been practicing with some smaller ones and want to get a Phantom soon.
Chilarrette said:Irving Las Colinas area. I have found a few good spots here to fly. How about in Coppell?
Hello guy's, Im new to the drone world and in the SE Fort Worth area. I have a P3 professional coming in tomorrow. Anyone still meet up around here? Also new to Texas need to find a place safe to fly.
I'm in Granbury (about 40 miles SouthWest of Ft Worth) and got my Phantom 3 Professional a couple of weeks ago. I've been flying at a nearby nature area because it's a public area and looking at the Texas drone law it is legal to fly and film over public spaces. Has anyone in Texas looked at the drone law? It looks like you better have permission from all your neighbors before you fly your drone over your neighborhood while filming.
Here is what I found on the current Texas drone law:
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(reprinted from the EastBay RC blog)
Here's my brief summary and analysis of the Texas "Drone Law".
There's been a lot of odd ("botched") reporting on this, so I'm hoping that this will help clear things up a bit. Why it's so difficult for reporters to actually read five pages of surprisingly clearly written text is beyond me. It took me about two hours to go through and type this up. NY Times, give me a call!
Later I'll do the same for the California bill (much less clearly written!). As always, leave me some comment or corrections if you've got them!
I've highlighted some important parts of the text concerning civilian or hobbyist use. Scan down and read those and you'll have a reasonable idea of how the law applies.
If you're flying over public property, private property with permission of the owner, or not intending to surveil a particular person, you're good to fly by this law.
The bill addresses what kind of pictures/video may be captured from an unmanned aerial vehicle. It adds chapter 423 to the Texas state code.
423.001 -- defining an "image". (basically what you expect: video/pictures, along with all-encompassing catch-alls covering sound, smell, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum.)
423.002 -- Nonapplicability.
(this is the important part. anything noted here is not covered by the law.)
(A) It is legal to capture an image by an unmanned aircraft if:
(1) for University research.
(2) at a designated test site or test range.
(3) by the military.
(4) by a satellite for purposes of mapping.
(5) by electric or natural gas utility, for:
(a) facilities maintenance
(b) facilities inspection
(c) maintaining clearances on easements
(d) routing and siting services
(6) with the consent of the property owner or legal resident.
(7) pursuant to a search/arrest warrant.
(8) by law enforcement, for:
(a) immediate pursuit of a non-misdemeanor criminal suspect
(b) documenting a non-misdemeanor crime scene
(c) investing serious accident scenes
(d) missing person search
(e) life-threatening tactical operation
(f) private property generally open to the public and policed.
(9) by state/local law enforcement, for:
(a) surveying a potential state of emergency scene
(b) preserving public safety during a legal state of emergency
(c) conducting routine air quality sampling
(10) at the scene or suspected scene of a HazMat spill.
(11) fire suppression.
(12) rescuing a person whose life is in danger.
(13) real estate broker, if there is no identifiable person in image.
(14) within 25 miles of the U.S. border.
(15) less than 8 ft altitude, with normal camera.
(16) on public property, and people on public property.
(17) inspecting pipelines and related facilities, but not for surveillance.
(18) oil pipeline safety and rig protection.
(19) port authority surveillance and protection.
(B) doesn't apply to manufacturing or selling unmanned aircraft.
423.003 OFFENSE: ILLEGAL USE OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT TO CAPTURE IMAGE
(A) Illegal to to use unmanned aircraft to capture an image of a person or private property with the intent to conduct surveillance of that person or property.
(B) class C misdemeanor
(C) defense if the person has destroyed the image:
(1) as soon as the person knows the image was captured in violation, and
(2) without distributing to image.
(D) "intent" is as per penal code section 6.03
423.004 OFFENSE: USE OF IMAGE
(A) It's an offense if the person:
(1) captures the image as per 003 above.
(2) possesses, uses or distributes the image
(B) possession is a class C misdemeanor. disclosure, etc, class B.
(C) each image is a separate offense.
(D) it's a defense if you destroy an image as soon as you know it's a violation.
(E) it's a defense if you stop disclosing as soon as you know it's a violation.
423.005 ILLEGALLY OR INCIDENTALLY CAPTURED IMAGES NOT SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE
(A) No illegal image as specified above can be used in court,
(B) except to prove a violation of this law.
423.006 CIVIL ACTION
(A) an owner or tenant of a property can bring a civil action to:
(1) prevent a violation of 003 or 004.
(2) recover a civil penalty of
(a) $5,000 per episode (for all images)
(b) $10,000 per episode if distributed
(3) recover actual damages if the person displays with malice.
(B,C,D) details on bringing civil action.
(F) two year time limit to bring civil action.
423.007. RULES FOR USE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
DPS shall adopt rules and guidelines for law enforcement use.
423.008 REPORTING BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY
Law enforcement agencies must report unmanned aircraft use, cost, etc.
Details as to reports. Details as to when this law takes effect.
So if I take off from my back yard but don't record or take pictures, I can fly to the public park 1/2 a mile away over the neighborhood without asking?I'm in Granbury (about 40 miles SouthWest of Ft Worth) and got my Phantom 3 Professional a couple of weeks ago. I've been flying at a nearby nature area because it's a public area and looking at the Texas drone law it is legal to fly and film over public spaces. Has anyone in Texas looked at the drone law? It looks like you better have permission from all your neighbors before you fly your drone over your neighborhood while filming.
Here is what I found on the current Texas drone law:
====================================================
(reprinted from the EastBay RC blog)
Here's my brief summary and analysis of the Texas "Drone Law".
There's been a lot of odd ("botched") reporting on this, so I'm hoping that this will help clear things up a bit. Why it's so difficult for reporters to actually read five pages of surprisingly clearly written text is beyond me. It took me about two hours to go through and type this up. NY Times, give me a call!
Later I'll do the same for the California bill (much less clearly written!). As always, leave me some comment or corrections if you've got them!
I've highlighted some important parts of the text concerning civilian or hobbyist use. Scan down and read those and you'll have a reasonable idea of how the law applies.
If you're flying over public property, private property with permission of the owner, or not intending to surveil a particular person, you're good to fly by this law.
The bill addresses what kind of pictures/video may be captured from an unmanned aerial vehicle. It adds chapter 423 to the Texas state code.
423.001 -- defining an "image". (basically what you expect: video/pictures, along with all-encompassing catch-alls covering sound, smell, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum.)
423.002 -- Nonapplicability.
(this is the important part. anything noted here is not covered by the law.)
(A) It is legal to capture an image by an unmanned aircraft if:
(1) for University research.
(2) at a designated test site or test range.
(3) by the military.
(4) by a satellite for purposes of mapping.
(5) by electric or natural gas utility, for:
(a) facilities maintenance
(b) facilities inspection
(c) maintaining clearances on easements
(d) routing and siting services
(6) with the consent of the property owner or legal resident.
(7) pursuant to a search/arrest warrant.
(8) by law enforcement, for:
(a) immediate pursuit of a non-misdemeanor criminal suspect
(b) documenting a non-misdemeanor crime scene
(c) investing serious accident scenes
(d) missing person search
(e) life-threatening tactical operation
(f) private property generally open to the public and policed.
(9) by state/local law enforcement, for:
(a) surveying a potential state of emergency scene
(b) preserving public safety during a legal state of emergency
(c) conducting routine air quality sampling
(10) at the scene or suspected scene of a HazMat spill.
(11) fire suppression.
(12) rescuing a person whose life is in danger.
(13) real estate broker, if there is no identifiable person in image.
(14) within 25 miles of the U.S. border.
(15) less than 8 ft altitude, with normal camera.
(16) on public property, and people on public property.
(17) inspecting pipelines and related facilities, but not for surveillance.
(18) oil pipeline safety and rig protection.
(19) port authority surveillance and protection.
(B) doesn't apply to manufacturing or selling unmanned aircraft.
423.003 OFFENSE: ILLEGAL USE OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT TO CAPTURE IMAGE
(A) Illegal to to use unmanned aircraft to capture an image of a person or private property with the intent to conduct surveillance of that person or property.
(B) class C misdemeanor
(C) defense if the person has destroyed the image:
(1) as soon as the person knows the image was captured in violation, and
(2) without distributing to image.
(D) "intent" is as per penal code section 6.03
423.004 OFFENSE: USE OF IMAGE
(A) It's an offense if the person:
(1) captures the image as per 003 above.
(2) possesses, uses or distributes the image
(B) possession is a class C misdemeanor. disclosure, etc, class B.
(C) each image is a separate offense.
(D) it's a defense if you destroy an image as soon as you know it's a violation.
(E) it's a defense if you stop disclosing as soon as you know it's a violation.
423.005 ILLEGALLY OR INCIDENTALLY CAPTURED IMAGES NOT SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE
(A) No illegal image as specified above can be used in court,
(B) except to prove a violation of this law.
423.006 CIVIL ACTION
(A) an owner or tenant of a property can bring a civil action to:
(1) prevent a violation of 003 or 004.
(2) recover a civil penalty of
(a) $5,000 per episode (for all images)
(b) $10,000 per episode if distributed
(3) recover actual damages if the person displays with malice.
(B,C,D) details on bringing civil action.
(F) two year time limit to bring civil action.
423.007. RULES FOR USE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
DPS shall adopt rules and guidelines for law enforcement use.
423.008 REPORTING BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY
Law enforcement agencies must report unmanned aircraft use, cost, etc.
Details as to reports. Details as to when this law takes effect.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems that the biggest issue is taking pictures or video of other people or their private property. Notice they say you can fly your drone in your own back yard as long as you're not flying higher then eight feet above the ground. The eight feet is typical of the height of neighborhood privacy fences. So it seems they don't care about flying around in your own yard as long as the camera can't see above eight feet which protects your neighbors privacy.So if I take off from my back yard but don't record or take pictures, I can fly to the public park 1/2 a mile away over the neighborhood without asking?
Yeah I also would like to know this stuff. Maybe you should copy what you just wrote and make your own post and hope someone from Texas can answer it.
I'm just a dumb truck driver trying to enjoy this new hobby too.
Yeah I also would like to know this stuff. Maybe you should copy what you just wrote and make your own post and hope someone from Texas can answer it.
I'm just a dumb truck driver trying to enjoy this new hobby too.
I'm in Granbury as well and I fly my P3P around/over the lake, parks and in my neighborhood. Not a word has been said to me other than, "whoa! Is that a drone?" Lol. My neighbors are cool and the police have even stopped and watched while I flew at the beach/ lake area. No issues so far.