What could cause a P4P to overfly the RTH point?

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I "think" these are the correct flight records;
I will have video uploaded later of the last event later FWIW, but I've never had the AC overfly the RTH point ever. Thank you in advance for any insight you may be able to provide.
 

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Looks to me like the Phantom was fighting the wind. Notice the Autoland Start and slow descent.

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Looks to me like the Phantom was fighting the wind. Notice the Autoland Start and slow descent.

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Yes, but it only started an autoland after it bypassed the RTH point, and that part is still a mystery to me. I did make the fatal error of fighting the autoland and didn't trust the AC to land itself, a fatal mistake I won't make again.
 
The Phantom started to auto land as it neared the home point (at the yellow circle below). It then continued to fly past the home point because you had the elevator (right stick) in the full up position.

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Yes, but it only started an autoland after it bypassed the RTH point
That is incorrect according to the data. The autoland started before it ever reached the home point. Notice in the image the slow descent that was probably not noticed by you. After the Phantom got lower in altitude, then it came basically straight down. This is why I stated it was fighting the wind. And possibly your stick inputs as well.
 
The Phantom started to auto land as it neared the home point (at the yellow circle below). It then continued to fly past the home point because you had the elevator (right stick) in the full up position.

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This is what I suspected, but in almost all my past flights, I always push the throttle up to speed up the RTH, and in every case the AC has started to slow down as it reaches the RTH, and I then pull off the throttle and look up to make sure it's where it's supposed to be, and then land if so.
 
The throttle is a combination tool. In this instance you were using the right stick full up right at Autoland. That explains it as msinger mentioned. Here is the graph.

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This is what I suspected, but in almost all my past flights, I always push the throttle up to speed up the RTH, and in every case the AC has started to slow down as it reaches the RTH, and I then pull off the throttle and look up to make sure it's where it's supposed to be, and then land if so.
Right, that sounds like a plan that would work in those other cases. In this case though, your Phantom was trying to auto land. Moving the elevator to the full up position at that point made it fly forward at full speed.
 
That is incorrect according to the data. The autoland started before it ever reached the home point. Notice in the image the slow descent that was probably not noticed by you. After the Phantom got lower in altitude, then it came basically straight down. This is why I stated it was fighting the wind. And possibly your stick inputs as well.
I'm going to double check this, but I'm fairly certain the AC first overflew the original RTH, and then established a new RTH point after it calculated that there was not enough battery to make it back to the original RTH. I could be in error, bur I clearly remember starting to worry when it approached the original RTH, and then kept going. If the flight logs and records say otherwise, then I must have gotten confused.
 
I'm going to double check this, but I'm fairly certain the AC first overflew the original RTH, and then established a new RTH point after it calculated that there was not enough battery to make it back to the original RTH
Check out my image above to see when your Phantom started to auto land. A new home point was not established at that point.
 
Right, that sounds like a plan that would work in those other cases. In this case though, your Phantom was trying to auto land. Moving the elevator to the full up position at that point made it fly forward at full speed.
Thank you, that makes sense, as I was trying to elevate the AC to avoid the trees, and then land.
 
The throttle is a combination tool. In this instance you were using the right stick full up right at Autoland. That explains it as msinger mentioned. Here is the graph.

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I may have been trying to fight the autoland at that point, in order to get closer to the original RTH point. In any case, I reacted poorly, and it cost me the AC.
 
Check out my image above to see when your Phantom started to auto land. A new home point was not established at that point.
I can't argue with the flight data, but I was certain it overflew the RTH, and then I got it turned around to come back, and it started to autoland, which I fought in order to get it closer to the original RTH, and then after that didn't work, I tried to control the autoland myself, rather than trust the AC to land itself safely, which it most likely would have, if I had just let it.
 
I understand the video footage doesn't tell the complete story like the flight records do, but I just went back and watched it, and the AC did in fact overfly the original RTH, at which point I was certain I had initiated RTH prior to that. I must have indeed had the right stick up in order to avoid the trees, and caused the overflight. I was able to get some redemption, as I returned to the same spot with my Mavic PP and made a successful flight along a similar route.
 
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Thank you very much to both of you guys for figuring out exactly what I did wrong to crash my bird, so I can avoid repeating my mistakes, I appreciate it.
 
This is what I suspected, but in almost all my past flights, I always push the throttle up to speed up the RTH, and in every case the AC has started to slow down as it reaches the RTH, and I then pull off the throttle and look up to make sure it's where it's supposed to be, and then land if so.
During Autoland, OA is automatically disabled and turned off, so the aircraft at full right stick throttle will quickly exceed 30mph, reaching 37-40mph, where overshooting the desired landing point (HP) will be the likely result. You need to back off on the throttle to optimize remaining battery consumption, and better control the landing, while adding elevation with the left stick as necessary. During Autoland, you still have limited ascension capability, combined with the ability to slow the rate of descent as needed, to safely land the aircraft, or hand catch (preferred).
 
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During Autoland, OA is automatically disabled and turned off, so the aircraft at full right stick throttle will quickly exceed 30mph, reaching 37-40mph, where overshooting the desired landing point (HP) will be the likely result. You need to back off on the throttle to optimize remaining battery consumption, and better control the landing, while adding elevation with the left stick as necessary. During Autoland, you still have limited ascension capability, combined with the ability to slow the rate of descent as needed, to safely land the aircraft, or hand catch (preferred).
I almost always go full throttle on the RTH, but this is the only time the AC has overshot the RTH point. I don't specifically recall doing it, but apparently I used the left stick to ascend to avoid trees according to how my flight records were interpreted, and that is what caused the AC to overshoot the RTH. To this day, I still almost always give the AC full throttle on the RTH, and I've never overshot the RTH point because of it, it always slows down as it approaches the RTH point, and I then let off and let the AC position itself for landing.
 
I almost always go full throttle on the RTH, but this is the only time the AC has overshot the RTH point. I don't specifically recall doing it, but apparently I used the left stick to ascend to avoid trees according to how my flight records were interpreted, and that is what caused the AC to overshoot the RTH. To this day, I still almost always give the AC full throttle on the RTH, and I've never overshot the RTH point because of it, it always slows down as it approaches the RTH point, and I then let off and let the AC position itself for landing.
RTH, in combination with Autoland, acts differently. RTH by default is set speed of roughly 20mph, and with OA turned on, will not exceed 30mph at full throttle. As soon as Autoland kicks in, OA gets turned off, and your full throttle speed becomes close to 40mph. I usually am already in Autoland when landing at less than 10% remaining battery, and, unless I reduce the throttle, I will overshoot my Home Point, too! Be safe, and learn how these festures work together. It isn't always as you would expect. :cool:
 

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