Well, my phantom 1 is now at the bottom of the ocean along with my gimbal and gopro black. I am left with trying to figure out what went wrong. I was flying over water and taking some video of some kayakers when I decided to bring it back to land. I realiszed that I was a little too high to clear a branch and tried to bring it down. I may have been a bit nervous because I was further from land than I had been, but was only about 3.5 minutes into a fresh battery. As I brought it down, about 20 feet from the water, it just dropped like a bomb and that was the end of it. I know that I am sometimes too quick on the control sticks and I wonder if I might have turned the motors off. My question I guess would be (because I can't test it now), if I bring the left stick all the way down while I am backing up to me (right stick down), would that be enough to turn the motors off mid flight even if I didn't go to the outside or inside with them? I know I'm ether going to build my own quad, or buy a p2 vision , but I will be stretching my budget to do either so I am trying not to make a stupid decission. If I go with the P2v I can afford one of two options... I can get a p2 vision with a integrated camera and the claim that is able to do FPV on a smart phone (android I hope) for about $1200. I can also get a p2 with their gimbal and no camera and by the time I buy the gopro black, I am at a similar or slightly higher mark. (it is probably obvious that I am a hobbiest, not a pro photographer) I sure would like to here other peoples opinions of these two options or even the DIY route (being fully aware of the name of this forum). Thank you for any input you might offer.