This “incident” did not happen. Why even keep the thread open? I’ve seen more productive conversations than this stopped because it rubbed one of the moderators the wrong way. I’m sick of our hobby and for some, our livelihood get trashed day after day after day by nothing but lies and negative propaganda clearly designed to get rid of the vast majority of US. Someone / something is behind this bs. Call it conspiratorial, but the key to all of this is public perception and once that is CEMENTED (whether it’s based on truth or not) then those who can make the decisions we all fear will make them in the direction that benefits those who want US out of the skies. At CES here recently, there was a few new underwater drones being shown. I told a friend of mine that it’s too bad I don’t live anywhere near any interesting bodies of water - otherwise I’d get one because the FAA (or your country’s equivelant) isn’t YET taking charge of what travels where and when and how and for what reasons underwater. If the media and general public had been this moronic and as ridiculously safety conscious as people claim they are today - if they were like that 120 years ago we would never have modern air travel to the scope we do today. Life is risky. Accidents happen. It is impossible to guarantee anyone’s safety at any time, anywhere - yet there is a constant clamoring for it from some magical force or government legislated power that claims to be able to deliver it. And people continually fall for this crap and allow our freedoms to be hacked away. It won’t stop until we, the people have had enough of this. I’m not against rules or regulations that are common sensical, but we went WAY beyond that and we all sit and wait for the next 3,000 page bill full of laws, rules and regulations, registrations, fees, penalties, etc. for us to translate and argue over in this forum. Remember the good old days when we’d actually get on here to help each other be better photographers, be better pilots, teach each other how to fix issues we might be having and share with each other our great successes and fun times we were having? Now, we’re all so scared about when, where and how to fly it has me constantly contemplating selling my P3A and my P4A. But, then I think if I do that I’m giving in and letting THEM win. I just wish I knew exactly who THEY are so I could go beat the you know what out of them. They’re picking on the wrong people, in my opinion. Drones are here to stay, that’s for certain. What is yet to be decided is who gets to use them and for what purposes, when, how, why, etc. Those conversations don’t include any of us, to my knowledge. It’s just really sad, to me.