This is why we can't have nice things - Drone nearly hits passenger plane landing in New Zealand

[stephenn]

I was just reading the latest article regarding a near miss of a drone with a commercial airliner. THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS. It's because of the people who think that it's cool to fly drones within 5 meters of an aircraft. Drone operators should have some common sense, no? This is absolutely ridiculous. We already have many regulations imposed on us and acts of stupidity like this just make it harder and harder to do the one thing we all love - fly our drone. Whats your opinion?


Drone nearly collides with Air New Zealand flight | Daily Mail Online

 

[Skynet1]

"This is absolutely ridiculous".

You are absolutely right, however, there will always be these sort of folks, the type who simply don't care, and are basically irresponsible.
It may be something inherent in the way they were raised, or general mentality, not sure.
In any regard, only time will tell if these R/C models, as well as others are eventually outlawed for the betterment of the general public when sufficient political pressures come to fruition.

 

[Hounddog]

Unfortunately we cannot fix stupid

 

[captainmilehigh]

Deterrents are one answer here. Mandatory prison time and huge fines may get their attention that these actions are not going to be tolerated.......in ANY country.

Until this is mandated, idiots like this will endanger lives and property..........and our hobby.

 

[Cellblock776]

Assuming that it was really a "drone" and not a bird, trash bag or party balloon as we've seen in the past, what is being done about it besides threaten everyone who has ever piloted a sUAS? Certainly there can't be that many people from that area who own whatever model of UAV they supposedly saw. The pilots saw this as they were coming in for a landing. It couldn't have been very small. Not likely a Spark or little Parrot model. Or was it? Was some kid out there with his home built little FPV racer getting his "yaw on" and decide to pop up into controlled airspace and do a loop around an airliner? Did they spot a Mavic sized sUAS? Maybe a larger, easier to see Phantom? Or Inspire? Was it a Typhoon? Bigger like a Matrice or some big agricultural unit? There's not a lot to go on from the article and I am skeptical of any "drone sightings" because previous reports have destroyed any credibility they might have had. The idiots flying around airliners are going to post about it on social media and brag about it. Investigate them, locate them and Prosecute Them. Don't lump the rest of us responsible pilots in with the morons doing this. This isn't Catholic School where one student screws up so the nuns punish the entire class. I got enough of that mentality as a kid at Holy Ghost elementary and I refuse to be punished for other peoples screw ups today as an adult.

 

[Archangel3356]

It’s becoming extremely hard to be an ambassador for this hobby amongst fellow part 61 and part 141 pilots at the FBO and down on the ramp. Every day theirs a new video on the internet or forum of a drone being put up somewhere it shouldn’t be and putting an aircraft in danger. I feel sorry for the so many recreational fliers who are going to be pushed into a 107 soon. Doesn’t seem right for those who have followed and respected the rules for ever. It won’t be long now. The FAAt lady is singing.

 

[captainmilehigh]

It’s becoming extremely hard to be an ambassador for this hobby amongst fellow part 61 and part 141 pilots at the FBO and down on the ramp. Every day theirs a new video on the internet or forum of a drone being put up somewhere it shouldn’t be and putting an aircraft in danger. I feel sorry for the so many recreational fliers who are going to be pushed into a 107 soon. Doesn’t seem right for those who have followed and respected the rules for ever. It won’t be long now. The FAAt lady is singing.

I tend to agree with you. Although documented and proven encounters between aircraft and drones is slim, the overall threat is real.

I would much rather keep my ATP duties (work) and my non-107 drone flying (play) separate. How long will that continue ?

Time will tell I suppose.

 

[MotorCycle-Man]

I have many safe flight rules that i fly my drone by as a Ambassador to the great sport of " Drone Flying " !........while ever other " jerk drone flyer " ignores safe flight rules..and gets laws created that In the LONG Run......hurts the safety conscious drone owner / flyer...all be cause they flew like a Stupid dumb idiot !

 

[Cellblock776]

It’s becoming extremely hard to be an ambassador for this hobby amongst fellow part 61 and part 141 pilots at the FBO and down on the ramp. Every day theirs a new video on the internet or forum of a drone being put up somewhere it shouldn’t be and putting an aircraft in danger. I feel sorry for the so many recreational fliers who are going to be pushed into a 107 soon. Doesn’t seem right for those who have followed and respected the rules for ever. It won’t be long now. The FAAt lady is singing.

I don't see it being hard at all. Why should their actions reflect upon you? I refuse to be accept any responsibility for someone elses actions. Do all of your buddies on the ramp have a problem with you owning a smart phone after a news report of a bus driver crashing on the interstate because she (the driver) was texting while driving a load of senior citizens to the casino? Do they sneer when they learn that you are part of a bicycle cycling club training for a 150 mile charity event and they just read an article about a couple of kids getting killed while riding against traffic on their BMX bikes, at night, with no lights or reflective clothing? Do they find out that you are a weekend Goldwing motorcycle cruiser and talk about the morons on the dirt bikes and quad runners illegally running up and down the interstate? Like these idiots-> Watch ATV drivers do wheelies on I-10
No. And you shouldn't have to taking the heat for being a Part 107 sUAS pilot because some "drone flier" got up to mischief. I certainly won't.

 

[loonie01]

Unfortunately, trying to get everyone on the same legal page is like getting every gun owner on the same page. Government can pass all type of laws but it will those idiots that don't care about the laws and do what they please.

 

[Archangel3356]

I don't see it being hard at all. Why should their actions reflect upon you? I refuse to be accept any responsibility for someone elses actions. Do all of your buddies on the ramp have a problem with you owning a smart phone after a news report of a bus driver crashing on the interstate because she (the driver) was texting while driving a load of senior citizens to the casino? Do they sneer when they learn that you are part of a bicycle cycling club training for a 150 mile charity event and they just read an article about a couple of kids getting killed while riding against traffic on their BMX bikes, at night, with no lights or reflective clothing? Do they find out that you are a weekend Goldwing motorcycle cruiser and talk about the morons on the dirt bikes and quad runners illegally running up and down the interstate? Like these idiots-> Watch ATV drivers do wheelies on I-10
No. And you shouldn't have to taking the heat for being a Part 107 sUAS pilot because some "drone flier" got up to mischief. I certainly won't.

It’s not that I’m taking any heat cellbock776, in fact quite the opposite as my aviation record of over 30 years is impeccable and known by my fellow aviation community. It’s about the 90 percent of the recreational drone operators that are very contentious and safe Pilots. The ones you never hear about that are going to be forced into certification for the actions of a few. I think it’s sad actually that it has come to that. That’s all. I know many non pilots who fly RC aircraft that are now in danger of losing something they love to do by zero actions of their own. I’ve been around long enough to see this happen with many things. More laws to try and stop the lawless. Good luck with that. People don’t die, they just get to the point where they don’t want to be here anymore.

 

[PhantomHero]

Couldn’t agree more with all of you in this thread. I cringe to say “us against them” but unfortunately there are NO accolades for flying responsibly. One drone pilot screws up and it causes shockwaves. I think there has to be a way to make a louder voice for those of us that DO follow the rules and just enjoy our aircrafts.
Let “the powers that be” know that there are thousands of responsible operators out there and we do not condone anything unsafe.

 

[N017RW]

It’s not that I’m taking any heat cellbock776, in fact quite the opposite as my aviation record of over 30 years is impeccable and known by my fellow aviation community. It’s about the 90 percent of the recreational drone operators that are very contentious and safe Pilots. The ones you never hear about that are going to be forced into certification for the actions of a few. I think it’s sad actually that it has come to that. That’s all. I know many non pilots who fly RC aircraft that are now in danger of losing something they love to do by zero actions of their own. I’ve been around long enough to see this happen with many things. More laws to try and stop the lawless. Good luck with that. People don’t die, they just get to the point where they don’t want to be here anymore.

R/C aircraft are not going away.

This is such rubbish to suggest.

Maybe flying at or from anywhere you can launch a self flying Chinese toy will be squeezed but R/C clubs and fields will not be shut down or grounded by drone operators.

I enjoy my quad but it does not compare to a 40 sized pattern flyer with retracts and a tuned pipe ripping at 60-70 mph down the flight line.

Perpetuating the notion that the hobby as a whole will become extinct is naive and alarmist.

 

[Archangel3356]

I didn’t want to imply nor did I suggest that the hobby was going to go away. So not sure where the rubbish is. What I’m suggesting is a lot more unnecessary laws for people who don’t need them that won’t be followed by the people that do. More freedom lost. More liberty lost. It’s not why I wore the uniform.

 

[N017RW]

I didn’t want to imply nor did I suggest that the hobby was going to go away. So not sure where the rubbish is. What I’m suggesting is a lot more unnecessary laws for people who don’t need them that won’t be followed by the people that do. More freedom lost. More liberty lost. It’s not why I wore the uniform.

What is the point if this statement?:

“I know many non pilots who fly RC aircraft that are now in danger of losing something they love to do by zero actions of their own.”

 

[Archangel3356]

Well they loved flying in places they no longer are able to. As a matter of fact it has happened at several locations where it once wasn’t an issue and now with all the bad publicity, it is an issue. They “loved” flying in those place and now they can no longer. So hopefully that answers your question sir. They don’t really care to fly at rc fields.

 

[Jerryatric]

I don't see it being hard at all. Why should their actions reflect upon you? I refuse to be accept any responsibility for someone elses actions. Do all of your buddies on the ramp have a problem with you owning a smart phone after a news report of a bus driver crashing on the interstate because she (the driver) was texting while driving a load of senior citizens to the casino? Do they sneer when they learn that you are part of a bicycle cycling club training for a 150 mile charity event and they just read an article about a couple of kids getting killed while riding against traffic on their BMX bikes, at night, with no lights or reflective clothing? Do they find out that you are a weekend Goldwing motorcycle cruiser and talk about the morons on the dirt bikes and quad runners illegally running up and down the interstate? Like these idiots-> Watch ATV drivers do wheelies on I-10
No. And you shouldn't have to taking the heat for being a Part 107 sUAS pilot because some "drone flier" got up to mischief. I certainly won't.

You certainly do not have to "accept any responsibility" but you WILL suffer the consequences of their actions.....

 

[Jerryatric]

R/C aircraft are not going away.

This is such rubbish to suggest.

Maybe flying at or from anywhere you can launch a self flying Chinese toy will be squeezed but R/C clubs and fields will not be shut down or grounded by drone operators.

I enjoy my quad but it does not compare to a 40 sized pattern flyer with retracts and a tuned pipe ripping at 60-70 mph down the flight line.

Perpetuating the notion that the hobby as a whole will become extinct is naive and alarmist.

Believe Archangle has a few valid points. The irresponsible actions of a few will impose regulations that could easily take the Hobbyist portion of our sport away. You seem to agree: "Maybe flying at or from anywhere you can launch a self flying Chinese toy will be squeezed...". Many of us enjoy photography almost as much as flying....watching a 200mph WizBang XR22 zip around the controlled club environment is not for everyone. I enjoy flying my "Chinese toy" and don't want to be restricted any more than you want your flight line regulated. Soooo....lets promote safe responsible flying so "the hobby a a whole" continues to exist. Just saying.....

 

[N017RW]

I see you’ve been posting here for a few weeks. Cool.

Now go back a few years and look to see who has been preaching for safe and responsible flight for a few years. I endured the early days of name calling and requests to mind my own business to name a few of the scolds handed out.

Having flown r/c aircraft since the 70s I’m well aware of the dangers and do not agree with the ways and places many still fly these aircraft and see the law is slowly catching up. As a result few have seen more regulation creep into our hobby as of late by irresponsible toy operators than those of us who have been doing it for decades

So when it comes to promoting safe flight I don’t feel anyone here has anything on me.

 

[Archangel3356]

I don’t belive anyone is trying to say they have anything on you. As a matter of fact I belive most of us all look up to you and you knowledge in this hobby, for the few months I’ve belonged here I know I did. So your over the top reply calling me naive and an alarmist and what I said was trash has me thinking a little different about you today. I’ve been around aviation more than 30 years and worked at the FSDO in Orlando for years. I know what’s about to come down on this hobby. You should be alarmed. Curious about your screen name, is that supposed to be a US registered aircraft?