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T-Motor MN2214 vs Stock P2 Motor Comparison & Install Video

Discussion in 'Phantom 2 Vision Discussion' started by BenDronePilot, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. BenDronePilot

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    I came across a very helpful and good comparison video comparing the Tiger Motors to the Phantom 2 motors. It definatly shows some performance improvements including another minute of flight time. I'm looking into this because since recovering my lost Phantom which somehow flipped over a few minutes after it landed with the props still running. 3 of the 4 motors are making some noise from what I think are the bearings. So as long as I need to go through the trouble of changing the motors I thought I may as well look into upgrading. The video also shows you being able to use the stock Phantom 2 CW and CCW props.

    Here's the video link.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2s3ed-BREw

    Here's my T-motor install video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vRMdzWKIA

    Hovering with the new motors.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35zflrgLQpo

    Here's a link to buy them on Amazon
    http://www.amazon.com/T-Motor-MN2214-Ve ... or+phantom

    Here's a purchase link on Atlanta Hobby
    http://www.atlantahobby.com/store/pc/vi ... category=0

    P.S. Despite the noise 3 of the 4 motors are making I just ran two batteries through them with some extreme flying and they seem to be working great. 1 is perfect and the other 3 make a little more noise than the next when manually rotating them. It's probably possible to adjust them but I'm not going to bother. Anyway when I change out my motors if anyone is interested in the 4 Phantom 2 motors as is let me know.
     
  2. Rallyeman

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    Hey, thats my review! Glad you likes it and thanks for sharing!
     
  3. BenDronePilot

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    Good job with the review, I like the direct comparisons you did showing both the similarities and distinct differences between the two. I'm not particularly looking forward to doing the replacement as it's critical to do a top notch soldering job as I wouldn't want my Phantom falling out of the sky. I do though look forward to the extra flight time and power to push me through gusty winds when needed.

    Any additional tips you can give me for doing the install? Should I remove all of the old solder when doing the soldering work? Is there enough room to solder in place or should I remove the boards all together? Should I use rosin core solder? Will I be matching CCW and CW tigers in the same positions they are with the Stock motors on the Phantom 2 with respect to using the original Phantom self tightening props? Does it get easier screwing them on and off over time? Should I use some paint thinner to clean the paint off the T-Motor threads? Anyway I should have them in within a week give or take. I hope all goes well :)
     
  4. KG4MXV

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    With a good quality iron that is at least 40W and a clean tinned tip.
    I would use desoldering braid to remove all the old solder after you have removed the stock motor.

    Steady hands or third hand to hold the new wire while soldering is key to a quality solder joint.

    Also use the correct size solder, using smaller rosin core or too large , you will get a lot of extra flux

    flux can be easily cleaned by denatured alcohol and a cotton swab.

    I recommend the .05 diameter solder.
     

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  5. BenDronePilot

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    Just curious when you changed your motors out did you decide to remove all the old solder or did you just soften the original solder and reuse it when attaching the new wires?

    I'm also thinking I may want to add adapters like bullet adapters vs soldering so I can quick change between motors if necessary.

    As to my origimal p2 motors I've since run a few more batteries through it and despite the extra noise or rattle inside 3 of the motors they do seem to be working fine tho I do look forward to the upgrade and hoping to have a more reliable motor.
     
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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    Ben, you mentioned a noise in your motors. I went through the same thing. Try using a 1.5mm allen wrench on the set screw while pressing together the center rod (at c-clip point) and upper prop stud. You may want to loosen the set screw first and make sure everything is seating as it should and then tighten up set screw. My motor ran a good 5 minutes making a rather loud whining noise, and after tightening with a small drop of thread lock I'm still running with that motor.

    Or send them to me. I'll buy them, or disasseble them and go over them for you. Whatever option is fine with me.
     
  7. BenDronePilot

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    I upgraded to the T-Motors but after I finished I noticed one of the tree motors has a stiffer notchy movement to it so I'm returning them and getting another set. Also the CW and CCW threads are reversed. It still flew okay regardless of that as I show in a hovering video.

    I'm definitely going to be selling them. I don't know what a fair price would be so might just do E-bay and let the buyers decide. One motor is absolutely perfect. Another motor is pretty much okay. But two others are making more noise with one single motor being the worst. You can see it in my new video I posted on my T-Motor Upgrade here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vRMdzWKIA

    And here's a video of my Phantom hovering with the new motors.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35zflrgLQpo
     
  8. BenDronePilot

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    I have a weller 40w iron but I ended up using my 30watt iron with a pointed tip instead. I think it came out okay. You can check out my video I show off how the end result looks. Let me know what you think. Unfortunately I need to redo the whole thing cause one motor doesn't have a nice smooth movement like the other three so their all going back. Pain in the butt.

    Here's my T-Motor upgrade video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vRMdzWKIA

    Pic of my upgraded Phantom hovering.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35zflrgLQpo
     
  9. Rallyeman

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    Re: Nice T-Motor Vs Stock Phantom 2 motor Comparison Video

    Hey sorry for the late reply, i am working 16hours a day so not much time for the web :cry:
    During the installation, my friend cut the stock motors cables in half so that we wont have to solder on the ESCs. So we actually ended up simply soldering cable-to-cable. My current setup does include bullet connectors and they really make your life easier.

    Just use a sandpaper and get the paint out of the paint threads!