Welcome to PhantomPilots.com

Sign up for a weekly email of the latest drone news & information

Recommended learning path for the P3

Discussion in 'Pro/Adv Discussion' started by longlook, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. longlook

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2015
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    As this is the first ever purchase in dji or for that matter, any drone, can you recommend any tutorials that would properly instruct from the start including absolutes prior to pressing the first button? I come from a photography and limited video background, so the imagery / capture / camera element is less of a concern. This should be time well spent waiting for delivery. Thank you very much!
     
  2. Meta4

    Meta4 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,729
    Likes Received:
    3,442
    The most important points are to read the manual until you understand it and fly in a large open area well away from trees and buildings.
    You'll be surprised at how easy it is but understanding is important.
    Don't get too adventurous too early - get lots of practice.
     
  3. Apparition

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    324
    Location:
    USA
    Conveniently there's now a built in simulator. Probably worth the time to get used to it before taking it out. I can't wait to play around with the simulator.
     
  4. MSBBL

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2015
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    40
    Will the simulator use the actual controller? Total newb here
     
  5. Apparition

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    324
    Location:
    USA
    Yes, and you must be connected to the phantom.
     
  6. packerman8

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Where is the videos everyone has suggested watching in the past for other models of DJI so I can get an idea of what to expect? I have flown a few cheap drones so far and find them hard since the drone doesn't stay in one place and seems to float whichever way the wind is going. Thanks!
     
  7. CityZen

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2014
    Messages:
    940
    Likes Received:
    36
    Location:
    NYC
    Take a big pile of money. Now find a fireproof container and a match...

    Okay, just kidding! :)
     
    allentc2 likes this.
  8. Kingfish28

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    242
    Likes Received:
    84

    If you've never flown a quad, I would recommend buying a small cheap one to practice with.
    I use a Hubsan X4. It's fun.
     
  9. F6Rider

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    346
    Location:
    Foothills Of The Sierra's, California
    The P2V was my first ever RC aircraft, and I had no problem learning to fly it, over 200 flights without one issue except one loss of signal incident, and it came home where I regained control. But I will admit I was a UH1H crew chief (flight engineer) for 10 years so fully understood the dynamics of helicopter flight.
     
  10. Apparition

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    324
    Location:
    USA
    Hopefully they are coming, for now watch the ones on the inspire and maybe the vision+ for more info.
     
  11. snowghost

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    212
    Location:
    SoCal, USA
    Exactly, and that's why you should practice with them. What are you going to do if you lose GPS and the wind starts taking your Phantom away??
     
  12. NXPRSS

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2015
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    2
    thanks to kingfish comment, I just ordered a husban x4 to get some practice time... I also plan on purchasing the new dji phantom 3.
    just joined here on the forum the other day to do some homework on the p3!
     
    BigPig likes this.
  13. Kingfish28

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    242
    Likes Received:
    84
    Nice.
    Get the prop guard because you will be bouncing it off things.
     
  14. Meta4

    Meta4 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,729
    Likes Received:
    3,442
    Some people think a trainer is a good idea.
    But really, the Phantom will be easier to fly than any trainer drone and they are not necessary at all.
    The simulator isn't available on the Android version if the app - only the Apple version.
    Experienced flyers recommend against propguards.
    They give a false sense of security and handicap your Phantom and probably cause more crashes than they prevent.
    If you are flying somewhere that you think propguards are a good idea (except possibly indoors) you are flying in the wrong location.
    Don't put yourself in a situation where "bouncing off things" is a possibility.
    Flying in a large clear area away from obstacles is critical for learner pilots.
     
    #14 Meta4, Apr 21, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2015
    jbx, bbfpv and BigPig like this.
  15. sdharris

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    151
    Location:
    South West, England
    I wouldn't necessarily spend more money on practice toys, my first flight was with the original Phantom and apart from an early flight where the wind caught it and I planted in to a fence in a bit of a panic I haven't crashed or broken any parts.

    Just breath easy, get it into a hover and gently work the sticks.

    The original Colin videos were always pretty good to watch if you can find those.
     
  16. Apparition

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    324
    Location:
    USA
    I agree with this, if you want a practice toy by all means but they fly so much differently than the phantom they aren't necessary. I've had a couple different quads and copters that were all under $30 and they were fairly difficult to fly especially indoors if you don't have reasonable space. Don't get me wrong you can master practice toys but a carefully thought out game plan when flying the phantom developed from reading this https://www.dropbox.com/s/mv8d1hohc3mceym/DJI Phantom Vision Summary Guide.pdf?dl=0 and using the info here http://www.phantomhelp.com/ will in my opinion be more valuable.

    Granted the guide is for the vision but it has concepts in it that should be learned. Hopefully a P3 version shows up.
     
  17. edonovanl

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2015
    Messages:
    630
    Likes Received:
    140
    Location:
    Treasure Island, FL
    If I was a Newbie without a drone and waiting for the P3 to arrive at my door, I would race to the nearest hobby shop and buy something to fly! The practice can't but help, plus they are fun to fly.

    As for prop guards on my P3P, I will immediately install removable guards and use them when I think they are necessary. If all of one's videos are taken from altitude then prop guards aren't necessary or desired. But there are many, many good stills and videos that require close proximity to objects so I'll use my guards then.

    What Meta4 says, applied to learner pilots is good advice - fly in unobstructed areas until you master the controls. I actually enjoy flying around and between things to hone my piloting skills, but I only do it with my gimbal-less +V2!
     
  18. Kingfish28

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    242
    Likes Received:
    84
    The Phantom may be easier to fly with full GPS support, but knowing how to fly without those aids could just save the quad or a bystander in the event of an issue. EVERYONE that fly's needs to know how to control the craft for all situations, and this includes manual flight.

    I was talking prop guards for the Hubsan, not the Phantom. And during the learning stage, it's going to crash and the guards are very helpful.
     
    snowghost likes this.
  19. Geoelectro

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2014
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Houston Tx.
    One of the more important things is to get used to knowing which way the quad is pointing, or knowing the front from the back. For example, I was flying low and close to a tree. I needed to back it up but instead, flew it right into the tree. Why? I thought, in a brief moment of panic, that the red lights were the back, like a car. The red lights are the front! Repeat, the red lights are the front!!

    Anyway, with all RC flying getting your brain to connect to the craft such that you always know which way it's pointing is important. Yes, there are ways to make the quad move in a certain way without knowing it's orientation but in a panic moment, you'll do better always knowing it's orientation.

    Geo
     
  20. edonovanl

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2015
    Messages:
    630
    Likes Received:
    140
    Location:
    Treasure Island, FL
    Agree Geo - I actually practice the motions necessary to instinctively move away from objects so in panic mode situations, my actions are automatic (usually). Another practice technique I learned with was to fly out some distance and yaw randomly and stop, then bring the drone back to make sure I understood how to control my drone in all orientations. Makes you think but I enjoyed practicing that way...

    Also, learning how to use the radar function is important