RANGE? Immersion 600mw tx, with Spironets

[Joel_t]

Looking to add a BlK Pearl to my setup. Has anyone purchase from these guys? http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php/bla ... ttery.html


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Yes I ordered my Black Pearl from Range Video a few weeks ago. They were good to work with and I received it in about 4 days standard delivery. I don't know about you but I found that most suppliers do not have the BP in stock And if they do it' doesn't include the battery. Range Video had it. I also purchased the Fly Sight 400mW transmitter instead of the immersion 600. SMe price but I figured I would bypass some of the issues others on this thread have ran into by purchasing the matching transmitter from the makers of the Black Pearl.

How is the Fly Sight 400mW / Black Pearl combo?

I've read nearly every page of this thread and still can't seem to find a definitive answer on fpv. Does anyone have a setup list that is proven to work until the 1km - 1.5km range? Would rather the monitor solution over the googles.

From what I have read it seems there are still a few debatable options:

VTX: Immersion 600mW / Fly Sight 400mW / Fatshark 250mW
Antennas: SL Pinwheel Terrybuild (quite expensive but good) / IRC spironet antennas / Blackhawk Plus 5.8 GHz 12.2 dBi
VRX: Blackpearl / Lilliput 664W / Or External receiver connected to monitor (not really great for keeping things neat and small)

Never thought FPV would be so hard haha

 

[Jimpic]

I made more than 4,2 km with this:

VTX: Immersion 600mW
Antennas: SL Pinwheel Terrybuild + LX (same brand)
VRX: Blackpearl

 

[GhostMaster]

If was me i choosed the Boscam 5802 and a TS353 400mw tx. Works great for 2km+.

Links:
Boscam TS353 400mw: http://j.mp/1gJ6t7s

Antennas (circular polarized)
cloverleaf antenna to rx: http://j.mp/1arIRFU
Cloverleaf antenna to tx: http://j.mp/1dG8kbW

Boscam 7" RX-LCD5802 5.8GHz Diversity Receiver: http://j.mp/1lZuham

Just to show how well this setup works here is a video i found on youtube (4.6 km on minute 8:14), in the description is the setup used, and you can read RC305 and TS351:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pkYzuNXp_c

Dont forget to check the Antenna connectors, the tx uses RP-SMA, the LCD uses SMA or RP-SMA, you need to make sure what connector are you getting.

 

[Joel_t]

I made more than 4,2 km with this:

VTX: Immersion 600mW
Antennas: SL Pinwheel Terrybuild + LX (same brand)
VRX: Blackpearl

4.2km sounds very impressive. Good to see people are getting good results with Immersion 600 and Blackpearl. Goes to show once again antennas play a huge part. Thanks for the info

If was me i choosed the Boscam 5802 and a TS353 400mw tx. Works great for 2km+.

Links:
Boscam TS353 400mw: http://j.mp/1gJ6t7s

Antennas (circular polarized)
cloverleaf antenna to rx: http://j.mp/1arIRFU
Cloverleaf antenna to tx: http://j.mp/1dG8kbW

Boscam 7" RX-LCD5802 5.8GHz Diversity Receiver: http://j.mp/1lZuham

Just to show how well this setup works here is a video i found on youtube (4.6 km on minute 8:14), in the description is the setup used, and you can read RC305 and TS351:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pkYzuNXp_c

Dont forget to check the Antenna connectors, the tx uses RP-SMA, the LCD uses SMA or RP-SMA, you need to make sure what connector are you getting.

Thanks so much for all the links. Looks like another solution that seems to work. Seems there isn't exactly one perfect setup. Guess I just have to choose which way I want to go. Haven't seen a Boscam in real life before, does anyone know it's build and performance quality compared to the BlackPearl?

 

[GhostMaster]

I made more than 4,2 km with this:

VTX: Immersion 600mW
Antennas: SL Pinwheel Terrybuild + LX (same brand)
VRX: Blackpearl

4.2km sounds very impressive. Good to see people are getting good results with Immersion 600 and Blackpearl. Goes to show once again antennas play a huge part. Thanks for the info

If was me i choosed the Boscam 5802 and a TS353 400mw tx. Works great for 2km+.

Links:
Boscam TS353 400mw: http://j.mp/1gJ6t7s

Antennas (circular polarized)
cloverleaf antenna to rx: http://j.mp/1arIRFU
Cloverleaf antenna to tx: http://j.mp/1dG8kbW

Boscam 7" RX-LCD5802 5.8GHz Diversity Receiver: http://j.mp/1lZuham

Just to show how well this setup works here is a video i found on youtube (4.6 km on minute 8:14), in the description is the setup used, and you can read RC305 and TS351:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pkYzuNXp_c

Dont forget to check the Antenna connectors, the tx uses RP-SMA, the LCD uses SMA or RP-SMA, you need to make sure what connector are you getting.

Thanks so much for all the links. Looks like another solution that seems to work. Seems there isn't exactly one perfect setup. Guess I just have to choose which way I want to go. Haven't seen a Boscam in real life before, does anyone know it's build and performance quality compared to the BlackPearl?

Better in my opinion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0RClicTeU

 

[Joel_t]

Is the Boscam 400mhz VTX difficult to install on the Phantom 2? I was always going to just install it with some double sided tape but dont really want to stick it to either side (one being the heat sink and one being straight onto the circuit board)

 

[IrishSights]

I use heavy duty Velcro on the heat sink side with no problems at all although temperatures here in Northern Ireland never get hot! I use a Black Pearl, IRC 600 and the Black hawk set especially for this setup from Horizon. For me its not distance but consistently good video signal I wanted for FPV/photography. I use a small plastic extension which gets the antenna a little further out from the aircraft belly at the side pointing down. I get no loss is signal on a turn.

I also have the brightness on the Black Pearl set to around 75%. Even in full sun it fine.

Thanks to threads like this i was able to home in on my solution. For me it ticks all my boxes.

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[Joel_t]

I use heavy duty Velcro on the heat sink side with no problems at all although temperatures here in Northern Ireland never get hot! I use a Black Pearl, IRC 600 and the Black hawk set especially for this setup from Horizon. For me its not distance but consistently good video signal I wanted for FPV/photography. I use a small plastic extension which gets the antenna a little further out from the aircraft belly at the side pointing down. I get no loss is signal on a turn.

I also have the brightness on the Black Pearl set to around 75%. Even in full sun it fine.

Thanks to threads like this i was able to home in on my solution. For me it ticks all my boxes.

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Thanks for the help, seems like another great alternative. I'm in Australia so heat is something I need to watch a bit. When it gets around 43C during summer good cooling methods get pretty important. Still I guess not a huge issue when all the wind is being blown around the body of the Phantom.

How far have you taken your Phantom with no loss / breakup in signal?

 

[IrishSights]

 

[IrishSights]

How far have you taken your Phantom with no loss / breakup in signal?

Never really watched for it specificly as I'm watching composition and always fairly close compared to some aviators here! With less focus on telemetry. For me the BP must be rock solid. Around 600m I would guess I have no need, so far, for anything further out. I do plan a longer Ground Station mission which will be interesting.

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[GhostMaster]

BP and immersionRC 600mw dont work very well together...

I mean they work, but the range its not the best...

 

[mr.goodkat]

BP and immersionRC 600mw dont work very well together...

I mean they work, but the range its not the best...

I have read 40 pages so far and yet there is no fair verdict whether to pick IRC600 or FS250 for BP.
still expecting someone to put me in right direction before purchasing FPV with monitor :arrow: :arrow: :roll: ........

 

[IrishSights]

BP and immersionRC 600mw dont work very well together...

I mean they work, but the range its not the best...

Its not black and white. There are other variables, vaying model numbers, frequency/channel matching, antenna's at both ends, etc. There are folks on this thread that are getting multi kilometre runs with their kit. So your statement at the very least is false based on users experience, read in this thread anyway.

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[2trickpony]

BP and immersionRC 600mw dont work very well together...

I mean they work, but the range its not the best...

Its not black and white. There are other variables, vaying model numbers, frequency/channel matching, antenna's at both ends, etc. There are folks on this thread that are getting multi kilometre runs with their kit. So your statement at the very least is false based on users experience, read in this thread anyway.

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I think his statement is actually correct.
He said that the IRC & BP do not work well together and this is correct out of the box.
I havent read about anyone getting multi KM flights with this setup as stock.
If they worked well together we wouldnt have to spend £££ on antennas etc.
Maybe its just down to people's expectations.

 

[IrishSights]

BP and immersionRC 600mw dont work very well together...

I mean they work, but the range its not the best...

Its not black and white. There are other variables, vaying model numbers, frequency/channel matching, antenna's at both ends, etc. There are folks on this thread that are getting multi kilometre runs with their kit. So your statement at the very least is false based on users experience, read in this thread anyway.

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I think his statement is actually correct.....
Maybe its just down to people's expectations.

Take your point, maybe your right.

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[goldfishrock]

I have read 40 pages so far and yet there is no fair verdict whether to pick IRC600 or FS250 for BP

Since switching from the IRC600 to the FS250 a couple of months ago way back at the beginning of this thread, I've not looked back.... it's the difference between night and day.

 

[Jimpic]

There are folks on this thread that are getting multi kilometre runs with their kit.

This is correct. First page of this topic, I wrote that I got more than 3km with Black Pearl and ImmersionRC 600. Lately I even got 4,2 km. Just use good antennas and fly over the sea
And at almost every flight more than 2km easily.

But I may try an immersionRC Duo receiver soon to see the difference.

 

[mcmax20]

There are folks on this thread that are getting multi kilometre runs with their kit.

This is correct. First page of this topic, I wrote that I got more than 3km with Black Pearl and ImmersionRC 600. Lately I even got 4,2 km. Just use good antennas and fly over the sea
And at almost every flight more than 2km easily.

But I may try an immersionRC Duo receiver soon to see the difference.

+1
I've consistently been able to go out to 3km with clear video. I did get 8-900m out of the stock antennas but its well worth it to splurge for upgraded antennas.

 

[mr.goodkat]

I have read 40 pages so far and yet there is no fair verdict whether to pick IRC600 or FS250 for BP

Since switching from the IRC600 to the FS250 a couple of months ago way back at the beginning of this thread, I've not looked back.... it's the difference between night and day.

do you know if there is a plug and play cable where you can connect dji->mini iosd ->fatshark/IRC without soldering?

I found this but not sure if yellow plug goes into cam bus ?

http://www.dpcav.com/xcart/Video-Ca...mersionRC-or-FatShark-vTx-Universal-Plug.html

 

[extrememc]

This is the cable I use. I also have the ground station as well.

http://www.firstpersonview.com/cables/p ... ransmitter


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