How many satellites for your home point to be updated? (Poll)

What's the minimum amount of satellites it takes for YOUR Phantom's home point to be updated?


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The P3P has the same GPS data as do the platforms that come after the P3P. The P3P also has the signal-to-noise data for each of the satellites but none of the post P3P platforms do. Not sure that's very useful.
 
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I have the .dat file in question.

Here is the .dat file:
FLY218.DAT

Interesting, but not a complete power up sequence - the aircraft has already powered up and acquired satellites and home point before the start of that log file. It does, however, show that the aircraft uses GPS positioning with a satellite count of 6, a NavHealth of 3 and a pDOP of around 3.

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Interesting, but not a complete power up sequence - the aircraft has already powered up and acquired satellites and home point before the start of that log file. It does, however, show that the aircraft uses GPS positioning with a satellite count of 6, a NavHealth of 3 and a pDOP of around 3.

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Yes there was actually 2 files for that time period, i was fooling with the flight mode switch and when I selected Fmode the props started to speed up so i quickly did a motor stop and restarted them, this is the data after that.
 
Yes there was actually 2 files for that time period, i was fooling with the flight mode switch and when I selected Fmode the props started to speed up so i quickly did a motor stop and restarted them, this is the data after that.
I'm not sure what you want us to look at. In FLY217.DAT I think what you'll see is that navHealth made it to 4 at one point. This will cause the home point to be set and a switch to GPS mode. The MC can get confused about when it should and shouldn't update a home point. Take a look at this incident. Seems that a home point gets recorded when navHealth makes it to 4. But, a subsequent lowering below 4 and then back to 4 won't cause the home point to be updated.

Mavic disconnected, and flew away.


In FLY218.DAT I don't see any of the switching to and from ATTI that you've described.

I think there would be something to be concerned about if this were a normal scenario where the P3P is powered up outside with plenty of satellites.
 
I'm not sure what you want us to look at. In FLY217.DAT I think what you'll see is that navHealth made it to 4 at one point. This will cause the home point to be set and a switch to GPS mode. The MC can get confused about when it should and shouldn't update a home point. Take a look at this incident. Seems that a home point gets recorded when navHealth makes it to 4. But, a subsequent lowering below 4 and then back to 4 won't cause the home point to be updated.

Mavic disconnected, and flew away.


In FLY218.DAT I don't see any of the switching to and from ATTI that you've described.

I think there would be something to be concerned about if this were a normal scenario where the P3P is powered up outside with plenty of satellites.
When i say switched to Atti, I mean that I'd lose the Green "Ready to fly GPS" in the app and the rear arm leds would switch to a slow flashing yellow. When I'd get 6 satelites back both the app and rear leds would switch back to green.
 
When i say switched to Atti, I mean that I'd lose the Green "Ready to fly GPS" in the app and the rear arm leds would switch to a slow flashing yellow. When I'd get 6 satelites back both the app and rear leds would switch back to green.
I suspect that the Green "Ready to fly GPS" indicator means that GPS will be used. Not quite the same as being in GPS mode.
 
Later when i get home from work ill post the previous .dat file and then we can see at what strength and number of satellites were present when the home point was recorded after initial startup.
 
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I suspect that the Green "Ready to fly GPS" indicator means that GPS will be used. Not quite the same as being in GPS mode.
Yes I understand that. My flight mode was set to P-GPS. And since I was indoors with the AC sitting on my coffee table GPS was kicking in and out. Tbh it was the first time I ever noticed it acquiring GPS inside, must have been in exactly the right spot. The only reason I had the AC powered up was to bring the battery down after my earlier 4 minute test flight at minus 31c. Had the props on and idling to keep the gimbal cool and drain the battery down to 60%. Then I noticed I was green in the app and on the AC and remembered this thread so I quickly took a pic of my tablet screen to prove 6 satelites can be enough for GPS to be active.
 
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Adding the flycState parameter to the graph you can see that the aircraft was in assisted takeoff mode for almost the entire record, except for the last 6 seconds when it switched to P-GPS. Apparently assisted takeoff doesn't require "GPS_used = true".

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Adding the flycState parameter to the graph you can see that the aircraft was in assisted takeoff mode for almost the entire record, except for the last 6 seconds when it switched to P-GPS. Apparently assisted takeoff doesn't require "GPS_used = true".

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I wonder if the change in the last 6 seconds was due to me shutting down the motors??
 
I wonder if the change in the last 6 seconds was due to me shutting down the motors??

Yes.

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2420.837 : 122866 [M. Stop]landing.exit_takeoff
2420.837 : 122866 Motor Start 3 Total 2420.88
2420.837 : 122866 CTRL reset all by motor stopped
2420.837 : 122866 [Ctrl<2>] REQ_RC_COMMAND ENGINE_START ctrl_engine_start
2420.857 : 122867 [Ctrl<1>] REQ_RC_NORMAL ATTI_HOLD ctrl_gps_atti
2426.298 : 123139 Battery power off
 
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Yes.

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2420.837 : 122866 [M. Stop]landing.exit_takeoff
2420.837 : 122866 Motor Start 3 Total 2420.88
2420.837 : 122866 CTRL reset all by motor stopped
2420.837 : 122866 [Ctrl<2>] REQ_RC_COMMAND ENGINE_START ctrl_engine_start
2420.857 : 122867 [Ctrl<1>] REQ_RC_NORMAL ATTI_HOLD ctrl_gps_atti
2426.298 : 123139 Battery power off
Ok here's the previous .dat file that will show the start up and home point recording data:
FLY217.DAT
 
Ok here's the previous .dat file that will show the start up and home point recording data:
FLY217.DAT
At time 570 secs the home point is set for the first time. It seems to be coincident with navHealth reaching 4 for the first time. pDop and hDop both had been less that 2.0 for several secs prior.
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and from the eventLog stream
569.958 : 29917 53.5892472 -113.4697171 640.54 First Home Point
569.958 : 29917 53.5892472 -113.4697171 640.54 Home Point

So it's possible that it's navHealth reaching 4 for he first time that enables the home point to be set.
 
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At time 570 secs the home point is set for the first time. It seems to be coincident with navHealth reaching 4 for the first time. pDop and hDop both had been less that 2.0 for several secs prior.
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and from the eventLog stream
569.958 : 29917 53.5892472 -113.4697171 640.54 First Home Point
569.958 : 29917 53.5892472 -113.4697171 640.54 Home Point

So it's possible that it's navHealth reaching 4 for he first time that enables the home point to be set.
Can u add the number of satelites to the graph?
 

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