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Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby dlopez916 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:45 pm

Anyone have a recommendation for a FPV system for the new phantom 2? We will be ordering the 2 this week, but would like some help from anyone with experience with a 3rd party fpv system. We have looked at the Fatshark Predator 2 and 2 CE. Priced doesn't matter. We want a quality feed with a good range. Thanks!
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby rilot » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:49 pm

I've used a lot of the 5.8GHz systems. I have the Fatshark 250mW system on my Phantom which I use with the Altitude goggles. On my S800 I have the DJI AVL58 system which uses the Boscam frequencies. On my F550 I have a cheapo ebay 200mW system.
On all of them I have skew-planar antennas.

To be honest, they all work well. None seems to be any better than any others. Range is excellent on all of them but only with the skew-planar antennas. They made a huge difference.
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby DeweyAXD » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:25 pm

Good answer there Rilot. On something the size of a Phantom the key things are good goggles (if you go that route) and good, well tuned antenna. I own Predators and they are pretty good but not as clear as i'd maybe like some day.

IMO anything over a 250mw on a Phantom is overkill. With cheap DIY, badly made skew-planar antenna that I have (using the wrong gauge wire!) I get 1.3km... this took me to the extent where my full range Futaba T8J began to drop signal and it was way further than I would (or should) be normally flying.
The other reason i like the lower power option is that it is much less angry when/if you accidentally turn it on with no antenna attached. I have done this twice on my Fatshark 250mw (once for 3-4 mins before remembering) and it is 100% still. The higher the power, the less likely it will react so well. 600mw is a popular choice but if you read up on this enough you will discover that, with good antenna, that can get way beyond 10 miles.

Pricing being less of an object I would suggest the Fatshark Dominators or Attitude goggles (better picture than the Predators). A kit like this: http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/comple ... ude-bundle

If you look outside the Fatshark box then I am hearing good things about these: http://www.foxtechfpv.com/skyzone-fpv-g ... -1218.html

These have diversity (two RX's so it chooses to give you the output of the most powerful connection) and a camera in the front of the goggles (a little thing but very handy). 854X480 screens too (FS Preds have 640 X 480).
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby FASTFJR » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:20 am

Could someone explain to me how something like this would be used with a Gopro? I don't know anything about FPV. I also plan to purchase the Phantom 2 with gimbal in the next few weeks unless DJI comes out with a gimbal for the Vision which does not seem likely

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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby DeweyAXD » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:16 am

First off I'd do a bit of Youtube browsing on the subject... there are rafts of videos with people setting FPV up.

In a nut shell you will need....

On the Phantom:

- GoPro Hero
- A video transmitter (vTX). This takes the signal from the camera and sends it to the video receiver (vRX). It will need power to work. This can either be taken from the balance plug of the battery or better still solder your own auxillary power cable from the battery terminals in the shell.
- GoPro Hero Output Cable (it takes the video and audio output from the USB socket). It plugs into the video transmitter. This is not needed if you have the Zenmuse (it has its own 3 cables that you plug into your vTX)

Off the Phantom:

- Video Reciever (vRX ). This can be either a seperate box with an aerial or it can be inside a set of goggles (like the Fatshark Predators). This receives the output from the vTX on the Phantom. If it via is a seperate box then you will also need a monitor to plug it into (or you won't be able to see anything!)
- Power source. The goggles use a battery (sometimes they don't come with one!). Monitors need their own power source. Most can use a lipo.

A good option for someone thats never used FPV is the Fatshark Predator V2 kit which comes with the 250mw vTX, goggles (with vRX inside), battery and a cable that allows you to plug a monitor into the goggles for either your use or a spotter. Out of the box this will do 500-700 meters range with the rather crappy stock antenna. Get yourself some circular polarised antenna and you will get 1.5km+ with 250mw (way beyond your line of site on a Phantom).

There is a HUGE amount of info on this forum about FPV setup and it is often better to search than it is to ask (because it is so well covered). This should hope a little though.
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby FASTFJR » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:09 pm

Since I don't want to wear goggles this seems like a good set up

http://www.dslrpros.com/Products/tabid/ ... fault.aspx
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby hjscm » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:57 pm

so if i got the phantom2 with gimble i do not need a cable out of go pro? the gimble has on that plugs into go pro 3 and then i can plug the vtx cable into my fatshark 250mw? what kinda connector comes off bemuse to fatshark? do i need something special there?
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby visionuser » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:00 am

best review I've seen for 5.8GHz FPV systems by my favorite RCModelReviews ! :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6LuEhuU-l8

RCModelReviews, if you're reading it I'm your biggest fan ! Keep doing your videos, please! Awesome work :-)
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby DeweyAXD » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:08 am

FASTFJR wrote:Since I don't want to wear goggles this seems like a good set up

http://www.dslrpros.com/Products/tabid/ ... fault.aspx


Yes a very good premium setup.

hjscm wrote:so if i got the phantom2 with gimble i do not need a cable out of go pro? the gimble has on that plugs into go pro 3 and then i can plug the vtx cable into my fatshark 250mw? what kinda connector comes off bemuse to fatshark? do i need something special there?
thanks


The Hero3 clips onto the Zenmuse via its bacpac port (which is why the zenmuse also powers the Hero in flight). It sends the video output to the main board inside the Phantom and there are 3 wires that come out of the holes near one of the legs (5v, video out, ground). 2 of these wires go to your fatshark 250mw (video out and ground). Ideally you will want to buy a 5 pin molex plug and some terminal crimps (ebay).
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Re: Phantom 2 FPV Reccomendations?

Postby thomas325 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:20 pm

can we still use this on phantom 2? so i can still use my 7" marshall monitor

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/9 ... o_kit.html
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