Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi module

[BlackTracer]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

What I would give to be a fly on the wall in the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Plus Factory Area.
Fly: WTF? Are you old enough to work here?
DJI Assembler: F U you stupid American fly. There is no minimum age requirement in China. Go home and stop worrying.
Fly: Wait. Why are all those quads being boxed up without being tested or inspected?
DJI QC: F U stupid American fly. We only test and inspect every 20th one. You think we have time and money to check every one? Hahahahahahahaha! You stupid foreigners will buy them anyway, inspected, tested or otherwise.
Fly: Did I just see you assemble the same quads with different parts? That is totally unacceptable!
DJI President: Just shut up and give me your credit card number.

 

[JJDu4]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Got my V3 around the first of December and it's got the vented Wifi module but no V2.1 ESC's! Sucks

 

[robsquad]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

i thought someone on here drilled holes in a wifi unit and caused gps issues ?

 

[msinger]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

robsquad, that's what he claimed. He also had interference from the Flytrex cable though too. I don't think it was clear as to what was causing the interference.

 

[dalebb]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Mine has holes in it.

 

[ToThePoint]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Use hammer and chisel to make additional holes.
I have a V+ first gen and a V+ second gen ( the one with 2312 motors ).
Neither old/new version have vent holes in the wifi module.
Vent holes are totally misplaced in the wifi module due to possible interference and or harmonics coming out of it.
Thats why that copper tape is around the casing to ensure a better shielding.
The new V+ has more and larger amount of silicon paste on the elements that needs cooling, thats all.
I know that because i opened it up to remove the silicon paste and applied arctic silver in stead.

you probably watched my video to apply your artic silver and how to properly heatsink the wifi module

Don't act like a know-it-all when you clearly do not know it all. The new v3 wifi modules do have holes in them for increased ventilation

I am a electronics engineer for more then 30 years.
I don't need to watch a video to know about the existence of arctic silver.
In 1994 i became a fully licensed HAM radio guy.
The callsign assigned to me is ON4BDJ.
One of the lessons learned in life means you can't think in someone else's place.
As you didn't provide a picture to state your claim and i have a V2 and V3 with no holes in the wifi module i guessed you had a bad dream.
Anyway i had to open the V3 to deal with a wi-fi issue and surprised i was mine has holes in them but only on the bottom shell.
Guess they do take parts to assemble @ random.

 

[packetlos]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Here is my v3 purchased mid November, guess I got lucky? 2.1 ESC's and the latest wifi module.

 

[marcusdji]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Yea I thought the new ones were suppose to have holes in them as well!

Love me some Artic Silver haha

Seems like the early first v3 batches don't have the upgraded wifi module, only the later ones.

Cheap Chinese dji quality control at its best.

I don't think it is related to early batches. We have some V3 here shipped 10/27/2014 directly from China and all of them have ventilation holes!!

 

[rickasaurus]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

One thing getting overlooked is that if DJI consider the ventilation holes as a non-critical improvement, then it would be perfectly normal to use up the current inventory of the previous covers/wifi units, even on the V3, before implementing the vented cover. That would be normal practice in most manufacturing companies. I don't want to start an argument about whether we consider the change is non-critical or not, my point is that it may be perfectly normal to find the previous covers on earlier production of the V3. In my experience with cars and boats (real ones), I have seen that situation many times.

The other factor is how much stock dealers hold and how long they have had it before delivery to you.

 

[eyecon82]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Use hammer and chisel to make additional holes.
I have a V+ first gen and a V+ second gen ( the one with 2312 motors ).
Neither old/new version have vent holes in the wifi module.
Vent holes are totally misplaced in the wifi module due to possible interference and or harmonics coming out of it.
Thats why that copper tape is around the casing to ensure a better shielding.
The new V+ has more and larger amount of silicon paste on the elements that needs cooling, thats all.
I know that because i opened it up to remove the silicon paste and applied arctic silver in stead.

you probably watched my video to apply your artic silver and how to properly heatsink the wifi module

Don't act like a know-it-all when you clearly do not know it all. The new v3 wifi modules do have holes in them for increased ventilation

I am a electronics engineer for more then 30 years.
I don't need to watch a video to know about the existence of arctic silver.
In 1994 i became a fully licensed HAM radio guy.
The callsign assigned to me is ON4BDJ.
One of the lessons learned in life means you can't think in someone else's place.
As you didn't provide a picture to state your claim and i have a V2 and V3 with no holes in the wifi module i guessed you had a bad dream.
Anyway i had to open the V3 to deal with a wi-fi issue and surprised i was mine has holes in them but only on the bottom shell.
Guess they do take parts to assemble @ random.

I welcome your expertise, but I shouldn't have to post pics to prove anything.

Mine only has holes in the bottom part as well. However, they updated it and it has been proven that providing vent holes leads to less overheating especially due to prop wash

 

[eyecon82]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

One thing getting overlooked is that if DJI consider the ventilation holes as a non-critical improvement, then it would be perfectly normal to use up the current inventory of the previous covers/wifi units, even on the V3, before implementing the vented cover. That would be normal practice in most manufacturing companies. I don't want to start an argument about whether we consider the change is non-critical or not, my point is that it may be perfectly normal to find the previous covers on earlier production of the V3. In my experience with cars and boats (real ones), I have seen that situation many times.

The other factor is how much stock dealers hold and how long they have had it before delivery to you.

They changed it for a reason. They knew the original ones were failing at a very high rate.

They were just cost cutting so they didn't have to eat the cost of manufacturing the first batches. Profits always first, remember?

 

[rickasaurus]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Of course they were changed for a reason! However I have no idea if the failure rate is very high or not, and neither do you. Do you know how many failures there have been per 1000 units produced? It may have been a perfectly normal product improvement process.

I have not had a failure of the wifi, and I expect there are many thousands of others also who have not.

I am not saying there is not an issue, but let's get these things in some perspective.

 

[eyecon82]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Just do a search man. Wifi modules failing like crazy before with the v1

 

[photoshop64]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Sitting here right now with a failed WiFi Module. DJI should admit this issue and offer warranty replacements. I have had my P2V+ since May 2014 and this is the first serious issue it has had, and there are many many people with this same video component failure.

 

[eyecon82]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Dji =shady Chinese company. Never forget

 

[rickasaurus]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

I am not supporting DJI on this or taking any position on the rights or wrongs. I simply wanted to explain how some people could have vented wifi units and some not, on what is ostensibly the same product. It is common practice among manufacturers, including non-Chinese ones!

 

[happydays]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

I am not supporting DJI on this or taking any position on the rights or wrongs. I simply wanted to explain how some people could have vented wifi units and some not, on what is ostensibly the same product. It is common practice among manufacturers, including non-Chinese ones!

I'm with you on that one. What many people seem unable to grasp is that DJI are a commercial company (as most are). They're out to make profits, and they do that by constantly developing new and innovative products which they then sell to new and existing customers. They probably buy in components from many different suppliers - even for the same parts. Imagine if they have a large consignment of (let's say v2.0 ESCs) just arrived in. And the R&D department announce a new model of one component - let's say ESC V2.1. What do you expect DJI to do with all the 2.0s? Throw them away? Don't forget that they are a company who are in business with one objective - to make money. Why throw stock away?

That's why there are V3s with holed wifi modules, unholed modules, 2.0 ESCs, 2.1 ESCs ad many, many other components in as many possible combinations as you care to think about.

And we only know about 2 components recently ESCs and wifi modules. What about motherboards; or GPS units; or batteries - or any other component? Are there consistencies there? I think not!

And just because something isn't made in the US doesn't make it shite. Most things that I own weren't made in the US and they're pretty good actually. Including all of my DJI products.

Made in USA does not equal wonderful quality automatically. Look at the automotive industry. US motors have a terrible reputation in Europe for appalling build quality. And have had for many, many years.

There will always be development in complicated electronic products. There always was and there always will be. Does anyone seriously think that all Apple iPhones contain the exact same internal components?

 

[rickasaurus]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Very well said, happydays!

 

[un hombre]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

Is there anything made in the USA anymore? Same stands for Europe and others. Manufacturing was transferred to China/Vietnam/India/Bangladesh/Others.

Anyway, just received my V3 this week, have not flown it yet but afraid to open it up to be concerned even more after reading this and other ESC threads... :shock:

 

[eyecon82]

Re: Wtf, why doesn't my v3 have ventilation holes in wifi mo

I am not supporting DJI on this or taking any position on the rights or wrongs. I simply wanted to explain how some people could have vented wifi units and some not, on what is ostensibly the same product. It is common practice among manufacturers, including non-Chinese ones!

I'm with you on that one. What many people seem unable to grasp is that DJI are a commercial company (as most are). They're out to make profits, and they do that by constantly developing new and innovative products which they then sell to new and existing customers. They probably buy in components from many different suppliers - even for the same parts. Imagine if they have a large consignment of (let's say v2.0 ESCs) just arrived in. And the R&D department announce a new model of one component - let's say ESC V2.1. What do you expect DJI to do with all the 2.0s? Throw them away? Don't forget that they are a company who are in business with one objective - to make money. Why throw stock away?

That's why there are V3s with holed wifi modules, unholed modules, 2.0 ESCs, 2.1 ESCs ad many, many other components in as many possible combinations as you care to think about.

And we only know about 2 components recently ESCs and wifi modules. What about motherboards; or GPS units; or batteries - or any other component? Are there consistencies there? I think not!

And just because something isn't made in the US doesn't make it shite. Most things that I own weren't made in the US and they're pretty good actually. Including all of my DJI products.

Made in USA does not equal wonderful quality automatically. Look at the automotive industry. US motors have a terrible reputation in Europe for appalling build quality. And have had for many, many years.

There will always be development in complicated electronic products. There always was and there always will be. Does anyone seriously think that all Apple iPhones contain the exact same internal components?

You have the same mindset as GM.

"Just let products keep failing till we get sued"

These are $1000 flying machines with the potential to kill someone. A bug in an iPhone isn't going to hurt or kill anyone. Horrible analogy man.

You can't go about sticking random parts in it to increase profits. I understand this is capitalism, but it will be their downfall.

All it will take Is 1 death and 1 lawsuit when a quad drops from the sky killing someone because they wanted to use up old inventory