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Walk away from this Adam.. This is where you get into trouble.. People are aloud to have a different opion than yours with out you going off on them.. You did some fine work here, don't blow it by getting mad at someone.
Sounds advice. More than anything, I'm glad I got it from you. I can completely see why you think I'm upset and for sure people are definitely allowed to have different opinions but if I seem like I am going off on him, that's where I get in trouble because it's not my intention. I was just being emphatic because of the nature of the information and my thoughts on it. I wasn't being sarcastic when I say if you can get the same info in that amount of time, awesome. Although I don't think it's possible in reality and therefore that shows through so I can see why that would seem condescending but I didn't mean it to be.

I don't get upset in reality on the internet at people simply because I know that we are all not face to face and I am sure he's a fine dude, and I have nothing against him or his views.

On another note, I do like positive things and take those to heart and you offering up advice to me to try and keep me out of trouble is something I very much appreciate, and because of our past (sorry for sounding dramatic ;) ) on this site, it means something to me. Truly. For that I am pleased and it's actually worth the interaction.

I found out yesterday my grandmother has late stage lung cancer (prayers please Grammy M), and juxstoposed to that, I can't get upset about transcoding.

Thanks Cat. I dig that you're giving me advice!
 
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Sounds advice. More than anything, I'm glad I got it from you. I can completely see why you think I'm upset and for sure people are definitely allowed to have different opinions but if I seem like I am going off on him, that's where I get in trouble because it's not my intention. I was just being emphatic because of the nature of the information and my thoughts on it. I wasn't being sarcastic when I say if you can get the same info in that amount of time, awesome. Although I don't think it's possible in reality and therefore that shows through so I can see why that would seem condescending but I didn't mean it to be. I don't get upset in reality on the internet at people simply because I know that we are all not face to face and I am sure he's a fine dude, and I have nothing against him or his views.

On another note, I do like positive things and take those to heart and you offering up advice to me to try and keep me out of trouble is something I very much appreciate, and because of out past on this site, it means something to me. Truly. For that I am pleased and it's actually worth the interaction.

I found out yesterday my grandmother has late stage lung cancer (prayers please Grammy M), and juxstoposed to that, I can't get upset about transcoding.

Thanks Cat. I dig that you're giving me advice!
First sorry about your grandmother.. I'm down to no one left from my childhood. This past year my sister and father died and they were the last of my family. I miss and think about them all the time as I sure you will when her time comes.
Somewhere along the line you felt that "myetkt" had something to do with cats.. It has nothing to do with cats.. It's from Disneyland.. I'm old enough to remember when Disneyland had ticket books, and E tickets were the best rides.. That's where E tkt came from.. But if you still want to call me Cat that's fine too
 
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First sorry about your grandmother.. I'm down to no one left from my childhood. This past year my sister and father died and they were the last of my family. I miss and think about them all the time as I sure you will when her time comes.
Somewhere along the line you felt that "myetkt" had something to do with cats.. It has nothing to do with cats.. It's from Disneyland.. I'm old enough to remember when Disneyland had ticket books, and E tickets were the best rides.. That's where E tkt came from.. But if you still want to call me Cat that's fine too
I am so sorry to hear about your sister and father. That's a tough pill to swallow for anyone in a year. I am truly sorry, Someone once told me (paraphrased), never argue or be angry at another person because you don't know what they just went through. I feel especially bad now for all the stupid crap we were at each other's throats about and I feel horrible about it now. You're a good man and I could tell that even then which is why I kept trying. Friends are family too but I know that's just me trying to say something comforting because in reality it just fridge sucks. Death sucks.

Sorry, I've hijacked my own thread with sadness and drama and I probably should have taken this to PM but hey, maybe someone will read this and feel comforted that they are not alone in the world when it comes to pain. Fellowship, friends, and family (even though you say you don't have any left) can get you through anything. That invitation to come join my family for dinner or something is an open invitation. I hope you've found some peace.

About Cat: Yeah, I noticed a while ago that I was just reading it that way but I like nick name so if you're cool with it.

Thanks for the kind words. I am very lucky when it came to my grandparents. I had my paternal grandfather ripped away from me at 3.5 but I've been lucky to live very long with all of my other grandparents. Most of my friends don't have their grandparents and I still have the other 3 and they have got to know my daughter and my wife and they are 91, 93 and 94 respectively. Grammy M is 91 and she's been smoking since she was 15 so lung cancer now is sort of amazing.

I know I'm blessed to have had that and not everyone does, but it doesn't take away the pain, especially just finding out yesterday. I'm a pretty emotional person and have been just a mess this whole trip and she doesn't even know yet and there is the debate among the family as to what to tell her.

Ugh, codecs seem like the last thing from my mind right now. I am at my sister's in Short Hills, NJ at the moment and I was flying for the first time at her new place and I flew about a half mile away to this church that had this AMAZING cross and I did a POI around it with the camera pointing perfectly aligned with it and you can see the lakes in the background and there is nothing high around here except that and it just looked amazing to me at that time. I will post it when I get home. It definitely felt well placed.

Ok, enough. Sorry guys.

:)

Adam
 
As much as I enjoyed this thread I confirm that there is a lot of redundancy in the videos. This is especially hard for people from foreign countries. Half the time bit watching it repeatedly would have been easier for me. Just an idea.

Thank you very much for your effort anyway!
 
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As much as I enjoyed this thread I confirm that there is a lot of redundancy in the videos. This is especially hard for people from foreign countries. Half the time bit watching it repeatedly would have been easier for me. Just an idea.

Thank you very much for your effort anyway!
Thanks for the feedback. I will try and be clearer and more concise on future videos but there is no escaping the complexity of the info or the proprietary nature of the language.

Repetition isn't always by accident but to beat a point home.

And airwindow, by the way, that is how you give suggestions not with incorrect info like "get a better computer because h.264 is fine to edit with and *** VFX with" (paraphrased despite quotes) and a negative attitude when someone is trying to help. (For the record, there aren't many better computers anywhere in the world than then ones in my bays). So there is a constructive criticism on giving constructive criticism. I'm not against getting criticism, there is a correct way to do it. I am not being paid to serve anyone so criticism in the form of a complaint doesn't work.
 
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I see you can not go without me, even though you told me to go my way (which I did...) ... well, well. When you call me, I should also respond.

A larger amount of nonsense (yes, nonsense) I did not read in one place. Ok, since my letters to Santa Claus.


let's rock ....

"Incorrect info like" get a better computer because H.264 is fine to edit with and *** with VFX ""
-I do not see what's incorrect with that statement?
When you dispute something, you must give the argument. My argument is that I do not need to transcode anything and I have realtime editing H.264 4K footage. Adobe Premiere CC 2015. The effects included;) And others members on forum have similar experience....

"For the record, there are not many better computers anywhere in the world than then ones and my bays"
- HAVE YOU EVEN READ your words before you post it? You should...belive me.
- CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE how that sentence sound? I would (and I believe the entire population of the forum and the Solar system), after this statement, like to see at least a screenshot of the specifications of your workstation with which few people in the world can boast ... your statement is ..... (I think that there is no classification for this). Burt Simpson will do better.

"I'm not against getting criticism, there is a correct way to do it."
-My way is correct. Short and concise. Amount of my arrogance is equal to the amount of nonsense that comes from the other side. See some of my other post. The problem you have is, that you don't know how to accept it. Because of your insecure... take it easy, it will come with time ;)


"I am not being paid to serve anyone have criticism in the form of a complaint does not work."
-Thank God for that. It would be a waste of money ...

Cheers ;)
 
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When you transcode your h.264 footage to anything in the world (and beyond), you will never (read: never) get a better image in terms of stored information of that footage. You get only (read: only) better editing expirience due to lower spec editing suite. With better PC or Mac specs, you will notice zero (read: zero) improvements.

Period (.)
Until next time when you'll call me ...
 

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When you transcode your h.264 footage to anything in the world (and beyond), you will never (read: never) get a better image in terms of stored information of that footage. You get only (read: only) better editing expirience due to lower spec editing suite. With better PC or Mac specs, you will notice zero (read: zero) improvements.

Period (.)
Until next time when you'll call me ...

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Dude, with all due respect, I'm not reading or responding to all of this because I'm not gonna get in a pissing contest with someone that is sure of something that is factually incorrect.

I will only respond to the "best computer in the world" comment because in fact I do. I work at places like Bad Robot, Digital Domain and my own computers at my studio blaze faster than probably anything you've seen. Modern Post once had the only Quantel IQ in the US and I was one of about 10 people that knew how to use it (for DI), and now it's not a power house but 10 years ago that was literally a 1.5 million dollar machine and as a product specialist for Quanrel, I got my first job out here running it. So are you getting that when I say the most powerful machines in the world, it's not hyperbole?

Used to work at Rhythm and Hues so yeah and I grade and do digital intermediaries at places like Lip Sync in London and I also work at Goldcrest in London and New York and these are hyper sped up machines with hardware acceleration and CPUs, GPUs and RAM that would make your head spin. You sort of need that when working in DI. Lol. So yeah, I work on the fastest computers all around the world. Just got back from NY today in fact to Los Angeles where I am the VFX supervisor on a television show where I work with and at Keep Me Posted which is a subsidiary of FotoKem. These are companies that are the crem de la crem of the post world and the machines I work on are pretty much the fastest in the world. I mean just look up the specs for Avid Symphony Nitris or Inferno. The grading bays that run Resolve on a full board at Goldcrest are machines that cost tens if not 100s of thousands of dollars.

Also, I didn't ask you to walk away. I'm not even sure what you're back is all up about. If you don't like, want or believe my info, move on. If you do, enjoy it. It's seemingly helped people here, at DJI.com and RCGroups. I'm sorry I am of no help to you but working in h.264 is a slower process while editing. Just read the thread. Or go to the other sites and see how many people it's helped there. You're just flat out wrong about what you're sayin. Working in a larger color space is helpful to your final product. Did you even watch your 8 minute video you posted? Lol.

Ok, this time for real. I am done responding to this. So bizarre that someone would get upset for someone trying to help people even if you incorrectly think I'm wrong.

Peace.

P.S. - since we're doing constructive criticism the Bama mic drop thing wasn't funny the first time and definitely not the second and the "(read:zero)" thing comes off sort of goofy, especially when you are talking to a 25 year veteran of the industry like a 2 year old. It's low rent. Now can we stop this because I don't want to read it and I'm SURE nobody else does including my post. I wish God gave me the strength to ignore this. I really wanted to. I'm a weak man. Sorry Cat, I wanted to. :(
 
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i haven't read the whole thread but I still don't get why go through all the trouble. Resolve has one button "create optimized media" which creates downsampled proxy files to work with,perfectly easy and smooth, and for rendering it automatically uses the originals again.
 
i haven't read the whole thread but I still don't get why go through all the trouble. Resolve has one button "create optimized media" which creates downsampled proxy files to work with,perfectly easy and smooth, and for rendering it automatically uses the originals again.

Morning! Yes, creating proxys and the intermediate codecs used by some of the more advanced editors and color creation tools such as OMF in Avid will help out the editing process but when you render back out you're still doing it from a source that transcoded the proxy through a h.264 codec which when recompressed will give you a worse looking image and even the OMF data and the proxys created by resolve aren't the best if you don't first encode the media to a better codec. A proxy is just a fake (for lack of a better word at the moment) bit of media which is optimized to help you view the media but it doesn't actually change the original footage. That's why it's called an "intermediate" or "proxy".

It's hard to explain but I tried to, read the thread and read some peoples results, especially in some of the prosumer editors such as FCP and Premiere. It's better. You also save a generation.

I just woke up from not much sleep and a lot of traveling but I will write a detailed explanation as to why hopefully later today to try and focus on the reason. I'm literally half asleep in bed right now.

Standby for a couple hours for explanation or read the thread.

In a nutshell, when you render out, even if using proxys for ease of use in the color grader/editor such as resolve (if you want to use proxys) then when you export if you haven't already "unraveled" the compression by using a better codec such as ProRes then then you will get an extra layer of horrible compression. It's exponentially bad to recompress h.264 (native phantom codec) to h.264 rather than transcoding the h.264 to prores and then recompressing: it saves a generation.

If anyone doesn't believe m, test it yourself. Take an h.264 video and compress it 2x and then take an h.264 and make it ProRes and compress 4x and the one compressed 4x will look better. Does that make it clearer? If not, will explain later. Too tired.

***at the end of the day this flow is only because we are starting with a non-starter codec. The reason it's a consumer or prosumer camera is because the native codec is h.264. We can't make it perfect but we can help out a little by blowing it up before doing grades and VFX. This is common fact. It's not a theory of mine.

EDIT *** I thought of the perfect way to explain this using the Resolve proxy example you brought up. I happen to grade and sometimes edit in Resolve on a massive full board at Goldcrest with a Northern Light scanner for DI purposes (which is becoming much less of a thing, DI because all is digital and DI used to really just mean the analogue to digital conversion) A/D conversion). Have for years. After I drop my daughter off at camp, I will post a perfect example. I'm glad you brought it up because it will help clear up the confusion on what's happening. Be back soon.
 
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When you transcode your h.264 footage to anything in the world (and beyond), you will never (read: never) get a better image in terms of stored information of that footage. You get only (read: only) better editing expirience due to lower spec editing suite. With better PC or Mac specs, you will notice zero (read: zero) improvements.

Period (.)
Until next time when you'll call me ...

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I never said you would get improvements. I said you will not get WORSE IMAGES. You need to blow it up so that you don't get a generation loss. I am sitting here walking on egg shells with you while you are being so matter of fact when I really want to scream how you really have no idea what you are saying. I've been doing this for many many years and facts are facts. If you want to do color grading, editing, VFX etc, you need to blow up the image to a larger color space and the final product will look better because you will get a better grade, composite and export so in the end YES (read: YES) better image than you would if you just exported the image from the original h.264. Will the original footage be better? Of course not, but I didn't think I had to say things that are obvious enough for my four year old to know. But if you want to END UP WITH A BETTER IMAGE, you will listen up instead of trying to be the man.

Now on to @DonaldictTrumperbatch , here is the reason why the "create optimized footage" button does nothing to the actual footage itself in the end.

Let's go back in time to about 2000-2004 when Digital Intermediaries (DI) were all the rage. What it provided was the ability for us to have an intermediate digital version of the analogue film with which to work with and then go back to film at full resolution (at first 1 and 2k , and the then up to 10k and eventually even higher). It used to take about 3-6 minutes to scan each frame (24 frames a second for a film) and the intermediary codec needed to be something smaller because back then, even HD was hard to come by for editing or color or VFX so there needed to be intermediary codecs and proxys.

Every system did it different. In Avid's heyday, they used OMF which took the original footage and pre-rendered it into a format that could be easily viewed in Media Composer (in the form of Nitric, Symphony, etc) and for Quantel which was the first resolution independent system which I was a product specialist on (that's the million dollar system I was discussing) was the first system that could handle 2K and eventually 4k. The Pablo which was the track ball system of color correction used by everyone from BlackMagic with DaVinci and now Resolve uses proxies or intermediates so you can use the footage and not get bogged down. However, it still needs to go back to the original footage when you are done (the full resolution footage) and then it was re-printed for film using the 2k 6K 8K or 10K footage that was not used in the intermediary process but of course was used to create the best master of which all the slaves were made to be sent out to theaters across the world. The process was reserved only for the most expensive films (hollywood blockbusters) because the system and the people running them were costing and making millions.

So, if you understand that process, not that in general we don't go back to FILM but we still go BACK TO THE ORIGINAL FOOTAGE for a master slave with the best footage.

In our case, the footage we start with is H.264 which IS A PREVIEW CODEC. Not a codec with which to slave from. If you encode H.264 into H.264 it is exponentially worse than the already lossy codec. H.264 is a good codec because it is so small for what you get but what you get is not a great product.

So if you will consider the DI process above and say that our adding VFX and color correction with the proxies and intermediate codecs provided by the editors and even hardware accelerated editors, it still doesn't want to have crappy codecs like h.264. It needs an INTERMEDIARY CODEC. There is a codec for example called Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC) which was all the rage for a while which eventually became ProRes. It's not an uncompressed codec but its almost lossless meaning no artifacts. That does not mean it will remove artifacts created by the FIRST generation but when you export out of the editor, if you use ProRes, instead of h.264, you WILL NOT lose ANOTHER GENERATION. If you do use h.264 and export, the generation loss is exponential and WILL LOOK HORRIBLE!

Here is what a DI scanner looks like. You feed the film into it and it scans it one frame at a time.

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It's not uncomplicated and your 8 minute video did a good job of explaining it actually but whoever posted it, I think you, didn't understand it obviously.

So even if you are using an intermediate codec like in Final Cut or Premiere, if you make the CPU try to figure out what the footage is to transcode on the fly so you can view it, it is highly complex because of the fact that it is so compressed. It has to basically unravel it.

So there you go, the reason blowing it up to an intermediate codec is because it makes the process of editing and VFX faster and the end product better because of the absence of a massive generation loss. If you don't believe me, go read the thread on here and everywhere else I posted it. DJI put it on their main site so they believe me.

Do you understand now? So no, because you have h.264, that doesn't end all discussion on how to handle the footage because "it can't get any better". This is true but IT CAN GET MUCH WORSE.

I am not interested in hearing about why this is wrong so if you want to tell me, save your breath. Instead of trying to be right, sit back and learn something because this is the facts.

I hope you get it, and are not upset that I am just spitting truth at you. That is all.

Happy Flying! and for god's sake beware of the h.264 ;)
 
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Does the same reasoning apply to photogaphy? Let's say my camera produces a crappy JPG, should I convert it into a 16bit tiff before editing? It would allow more flexibility and dynamic range as well.
With Prores you also go from 8bit h264 to a 10bit format.

Can anyone recommend the best PC alternative to prores (which is for mac-only)?
 
Does the same reasoning apply to photogaphy? Let's say my camera produces a crappy JPG, should I convert it into a 16bit tiff before editing? It would allow more flexibility and dynamic range as well.
With Prores you also go from 8bit h264 to a 10bit format.

Can anyone recommend the best PC alternative to prores (which is for mac-only)?
What camera are you using that produces a JPEG??

Almost all even half decent cameras, including the Phantom (with the exception of point and shoots) have a raw option. Just shoot raw and that's the photo version of uncompressed and then none of this applies.

I SUPPOSE (and I'm a VFX/producer/DP) that some of the theories apply but even if they did you wouldn't create a proxy for working with a single frame like a photo. It's just not necessary because the file is too small to make it necessary. If you wanted to bump it to something else then you would just do it and be done with it. Let us not forget that if shooting in 30fps, each second of video is 30 pictures, so to speak.

So no, not really does this stuff apply to photography, mainly because the reasons for intermediaries just doesn't have a place in the small storage business of phtohraphy. Unless you're using one of those telephoto cameras like one I'll post below will you get an image large enough to matter. When I say telephoto cameras, I don't mean a telephoto lens, I mean the gigapixel cameras that are AMAZING but a) they don't shoot crappy JPEGS and b) I'm just using this question to show you something cool!

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Show these to the next person that mentions spying with our 20mm phantom cams. lol. Click on a non shrunk down gigaphoto for some fun. It's truly amazing!!!

The cheap giga-cams on the market are upwards of $50,000 and go up. You can find 35-50mp ones for about 20k dollars.

GigaPan | High-Resolution Images | Panoramic Photography | GigaPixel Images
 
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I missed you .... so sweet

"Let's go back in time to about 2000-2004"....
-didn't read after that...it's meaningless. I fell asleep...
You can sound like you've eaten all the books on film theory but in real world, all comes down to one thing: "BBC"
-Buy a Better Computer;)

It's simple.

(And a new keyboard because you this will not last long due to the length of your posts.)
 
I missed you .... so sweet

"Let's go back in time to about 2000-2004"....
-didn't read after that...it's meaningless. I fell asleep...
You can sound like you've eaten all the books on film theory but in real world, all comes down to one thing: "BBC"
-Buy a Better Computer;)

It's simple.

(And a new keyboard because you this will not last long due to the length of your posts.)
It's very obvious you didn't read it. Buy a better computer to work on steams? Show me what computer will run multiple levels of 10K footage stream like a one million and a half dollar Quantel IQ to do for DI purposes. (now this was in the past but there is still not a computer in existence that you can just buy that can handle multiple 10k streams) LOL. You might be the only person in the world more stubborn than I. I said go back to 2000-2004 when DI was from film to scan 2k to 10k files that could not be read by any computer. Still today you can't find a computer, however accelerated that can handle 10K video which is what VFX shots on big budget films are shot on. There are actually computers that can handle a single 10k stream for more money than most of us will ever own at a single moment of our lives but nothing that can handle multiples which is needed for grading, compositing (by nature compositing is multiple layers), etc.

You are not listening and I don't care. Not that you could ever be competition even if I sat down and tried to teach you all that you need to learn, and yo need to learn a lot but continue on not knowing things. Let me know how it works out for you. Good luck.

Your BBC is almost as clever as your (Read: Zero) comment. You would be wise to know when someone can offer you something to learn.

My home computer is probably faster than any computer you have ever used and the computer at my studio or the studios I work on are DEFINITELY faster than anything you've probably even read about. I literally and actually do work on the FASTEST computers in the world. Not hyperbole.

Talking to you is like banging my head against the wall. Getting upset at you would be like getting upset at a dog for barking though so I will just say, okay, you're right. I'll get a faster computer and see if the DI world never needed to even exist. I bet before this thread you never even heard of the term "Digital Intermediary". The only difference between the DI of today and before (2000-2004) is that we shoot usually only digitally now (unless your name is Quentin) so we don't need to scan, and we usually use digital projectors so there is no going back to film either so DI really has just become DI codecs which is what this thread is about. I am aware that you probably didn't understand that paragraph though. I am not even saying that to be rude.

I would suggest Googling "Digital Intermediate Film" and have a few reads as you have no idea about what the process of creating footage and what on-lining even is. Sometimes it is indeed not necessary like if you are making an independent film shot on a GH4 but if yo have 10K streams of video uncompressed and you think you can edit by BBCing LOL, I have some bridges to sell you.

I have put some work into this thread and answering people's questions and I don't want it locked because of a weird pissing contest with you so I will end responding to any of your responses from this point out. As @Myetkt said, you are entitled to your opinion but in reality you can't have an opinion on 1+1 unless you want to get into quantum physics. This is objective stuff here but I will respect your "opinion" as it won't change but I would listen up if I were you and learn a little something. Peace.
 
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It's very obvious you didn't read it. Buy a better computer to work on steams? Show me what computer will run multiple levels of 10K footage stream like a one million and a half dollar Quantel IQ to do for DI purposes. (now this was in the past but there is still not a computer in existence that you can just buy that can handle multiple 10k streams) LOL. You might be the only person in the world more stubborn than I. I said go back to 2000-2004 when DI was from film to scan 2k to 10k files that could not be read by any computer. Still today you can't find a computer, however accelerated that can handle 10K video which is what VFX shots on big budget films are shot on. There are actually computers that can handle a single 10k stream for more money than most of us will ever own at a single moment of our lives but nothing that can handle multiples which is needed for grading, compositing (by nature compositing is multiple layers), etc.

You are not listening and I don't care. Not that you could ever be competition even if I sat down and tried to teach you all that you need to learn, and yo need to learn a lot but continue on not knowing things. Let me know how it works out for you. Good luck.

Your BBC is almost as clever as your (Read: Zero) comment. You would be wise to know when someone can offer you something to learn.

My home computer is probably faster than any computer you have ever used and the computer at my studio or the studios I work on are DEFINITELY faster than anything you've probably even read about. I literally and actually do work on the FASTEST computers in the world. Not hyperbole.

Talking to you is like banging my head against the wall. Getting upset at you would be like getting upset at a dog for barking though so I will just say, okay, you're right. I'll get a faster computer and see if the DI world never needed to even exist. I bet before this thread you never even heard of the term "Digital Intermediary". The only difference between the DI of today and before (2000-2004) is that we shoot usually only digitally now (unless your name is Quentin) so we don't need to scan, and we usually use digital projectors so there is no going back to film either so DI really has just become DI codecs which is what this thread is about. I am aware that you probably didn't understand that paragraph though. I am not even saying that to be rude.

I would suggest Googling "Digital Intermediate Film" and have a few reads as you have no idea about what the process of creating footage and what on-lining even is. Sometimes it is indeed not necessary like if you are making an independent film shot on a GH4 but if yo have 10K streams of video uncompressed and you think you can edit by BBCing LOL, I have some bridges to sell you.

I have put some work into this thread and answering people's questions and I don't want it locked because of a weird pissing contest with you so I will end responding to any of your responses from this point out. As @Myetkt said, you are entitled to your opinion but in reality you can't have an opinion on 1+1 unless you want to get into quantum physics. This is objective stuff here but I will respect your "opinion" as it won't change but I would listen up if I were you and learn a little something. Peace.

You get some new keyboard? Thumbs up!

Lets rock:

1)"Show me what computer will run multiple levels of 10K footage stream ....bla bla bla..... in existence that ...blablabla...can handle multiple ...blablabla"
-You are waaaaay to far man...this is drone forum, not a university of Mars and how to archive speed of light. This thread was started on transcoding material from drone, and see where you end up ... 10K, giga mega peta pixels, 2004 ... man you drifted ... you remind me on Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz...chilll...

2) "You are not listening and I don't care."
-Ooooo...yes you are....you care and you know it ( is it love?), otherwise you would not reacted so dramatic. You wasted all the letters in the world ... what about us, regular people? We also like to type....ccc

3) "I would suggest Googling "Digital Intermediate Film" "
-I would suggest Googling "how to get a point and stay young"

4) "but if yo have 10K streams of video uncompressed and you think ....blablabla... some bridges .....blabla..."
- Here we go again...man, you have some haaard time there...

5) "My home computer is probably faster than any computer you have ever used"
-You wanna bet? My "fatty" still runs great, without transcoding of course ;)

6) "I will just say, okay, you're right."
-Thx, you finally admitted.

7) "Peace"
 

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You get some new keyboard? Thumbs up!

Lets rock:

1)"Show me what computer will run multiple levels of 10K footage stream ....bla bla bla..... in existence that ...blablabla...can handle multiple ...blablabla"
-You are waaaaay to far man...this is drone forum, not a university of Mars and how to archive speed of light. This thread was started on transcoding material from drone, and see where you end up ... 10K, giga mega peta pixels, 2004 ... man you drifted ... you remind me on Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz...chilll...

2) "You are not listening and I don't care."
-Ooooo...yes you are....you care and you know it ( is it love?), otherwise you would not reacted so dramatic. You wasted all the letters in the world ... what about us, regular people? We also like to type....ccc

3) "I would suggest Googling "Digital Intermediate Film" "
-I would suggest Googling "how to get a point and stay young"

4) "but if yo have 10K streams of video uncompressed and you think ....blablabla... some bridges .....blabla..."
- Here we go again...man, you have some haaard time there...

5) "My home computer is probably faster than any computer you have ever used"
-You wanna bet? My "fatty" still runs great, without transcoding of course ;)

6) "I will just say, okay, you're right."
-Thx, you finally admitted.

7) "Peace"
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Just so you don't waste more time, I wasn't kidding. I am not derailing this thread anymore so I did and will not read your last response. All the best my friend. Hope you learn to learn.
 
Let this get back on topic and stop with the insults .
And stop with the argumentative posting .
 
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