When did the FAA first raise its "ugly head" ?

[Suwaneeguy]

Any one have a source documentation of when the FAA officially began banning drones from the skies for commercial purposes?
All I can find on it is that some say the ban has been in effect for six years.
IOW, since 2008.
Gee. Isn't that when Obama took office?
I am not wanting to turn this thread into some political massacre or soapbox.
I just want to know whom to blame precisely.

 

[ianwood]

Seems you've already drawn your conclusion. If you want someone to blame, you should blame the FAA and the military industrial complex who are so far up the FAA's backside you can't tell where one stops and the other begins. The Obama administration signed the FAA Modernization Act which is the only thing preventing the FAA from grounding all drones all together, so maybe they're a little more of a supporter for the industry than some might expect.

 

[N017RW]

Try writing this guy: (Peter Sachs)
[email protected]

 

[GoodnNuff]

Lol....another thing that just has to be Obama's fault, eh?

 

[derrickduff]

The US president single-handedly sets the price on global oil, creates jobs / destroys jobs, manifests global wars, creates global peace, causes European financial crises, causes South American refugee crises at our border, allows our ambassadors to be killed, spends trillions of dollars on free cell phone plans for black people and worst of all disgraces the military by saluting incorrectly.

 

[Buckaye]

Where's the pop-corn eating emoticon when you need it. :roll:

Just when I thought I finally found a place where people don't go on political rants..... yay... another oasis destroyed.

 

[MadMitch88]

All hail to our Dear Father of the Skies --- Emperor O'Bummer the Almighty Maleficent

May any of us be so lucky someday to sprinkle pink rose petals from our Phantoms in his Majesty's presence. :roll:

 

[GoodnNuff]

The US president single-handedly sets the price on global oil, creates jobs / destroys jobs, manifests global wars, creates global peace, causes European financial crises, causes South American refugee crises at our border, allows our ambassadors to be killed, spends trillions of dollars on free cell phone plans for black people and worst of all disgraces the military by saluting incorrectly.

My Face Book account has been filled this morning with different photos of President Bush saluting with his Scottish Terrier in his arms...
I can't recall anyone being upset about those incidents.

 

[ProfessorStein]

The Obama administration signed the FAA Modernization Act which is the only thing preventing the FAA from grounding all drones all together

Egggggggggg-zackly.

The FAA Modernization Act states that the FAA shall not put any restrictions on any model aircraft activity as long as it meets the guidelines of hobby use (and a few other provisions). And what did the FAA do? They said "okay, then we'll only try to regulate 'commercial use'." And, yeah, that happened precisely when the Modernization Act was signed... which would've been 2012. But don't think for a moment that, if the Modernization Act wasn't signed, that the FAA wouldn't be trying to regulate the hobby sector as well.

 

[MadMitch88]

My Face Book account has been filled this morning with different photos of President Bush saluting with his Scottish Terrier in his arms...
I can't recall anyone being upset about those incidents.

I thought all the Republicans keep screaming that Dubya was a lot more respectful of our armed forces than a "Kenyan Socialist" like Obama?

This photo seems to prove otherwise:

 

[750r]

They really started to flex their muscle when the smart quads came way down in price . Then everyone got one and some being totally unresponsible with flying . So really they had no choice now you want to make some money well we do to . In the end watch and see you'll be able to do "commercial flying" after you take a test and give them a nice fat kick back . IMO

 

[derrickduff]

The US president single-handedly sets the price on global oil, creates jobs / destroys jobs, manifests global wars, creates global peace, causes European financial crises, causes South American refugee crises at our border, allows our ambassadors to be killed, spends trillions of dollars on free cell phone plans for black people and worst of all disgraces the military by saluting incorrectly.

My Face Book account has been filled this morning with different photos of President Bush saluting with his Scottish Terrier in his arms...
I can't recall anyone being upset about those incidents.

But he had a dog, it's ok and cute. If you salute with a latte you look self-righteous and pompous. And, Benghazi...

 

[Happyflyer]

Well that is easy to see: The doggie has his leg caught in his leash. Bush was saluting for the doggie.

 

[BaldEagle]

Blah Blah Blah.

:twisted: :evil:

Lemme just go out and play. Please don't get too heavy. Save the drama for your mamma.

 

[MadMitch88]

Well that is easy to see: The doggie has his leg caught in his leash. Bush was saluting for the doggie.

This pretty much sums it up ---- Idiot-in-Chief :mrgreen:

 

[SilentAV8R]

In the end watch and see you'll be able to do "commercial flying" after you take a test and give them a nice fat kick back . IMO

That would be counter to every other license or operator's certificate the FAA issues. You may have to pay a 3rd party for instruction, and a check ride/check out, but the FAA does not charge for what they do. So I sincerely doubt they will suddenly change that now.

 

[tpallred]

They really started to flex their muscle when the smart quads came way down in price . Then everyone got one and some being totally unresponsible with flying . So really they had no choice now you want to make some money well we do to . In the end watch and see you'll be able to do "commercial flying" after you take a test and give them a nice fat kick back . IMO

New North Carolina law (effective for acts after 10/1/14 with penalties starting 12/1/14) states that commercial (defined as anything remotely resembling direct or indirect compensation / financial benefit) UAV operators will have to be certified by the Division of Aircraft of the Department of Transportation after taking a certification test the DOT has yet to come up with. The original law gave the DOT until May 2015 to develop the test but has been modified to let them wait until the FAA has finished their regs, whenever that happens to be. Violations are mostly misdemeanors but the #1 listed "crime" is "surveillance" of people or property without prior authorization. Depending on how they want to define "surveillance", you could pretty much be in violation every time you take to the air. Think how much property these things can view from the air. "Model aircraft" (no compensation) are exempt from the law. Don't ask me why the dates don't line up - I'm not in the gummit.

 

[sifaka]

Actually I don't think that anyone is to blame, even W, though it is likely that he ignored something important while he was busy vacationing. The FAA has been operating under antiquated policy that was designed to deal with RC planes and helicopters. The legislation was written when no one imagined that anyone would actually use RC planes for surveillance or anything else commercial. Technology outstripped policy. No one, except a few forward thinkers imagined that a drone with the sophsitication of the P2V+ would be available at a price where millions of US citizens could afford it. Suddenly a niche hobby went mainstream and with technology that opened areas that were not of interest to traditional RC'ers. In addition it immediately opened up commercial opportunities that were not practical for RC planes, but were ideally suited to quadcopters. The FAA has been trying to catch up ever since. Congress mandated that they have a policy by 2014, a deadline that they have missed. In fairness to the FAA I think they are trying to keep this from getting out of hand without completely clamping down on UAVs. We have all seen that there are some knuckleheads out there who are putting this exciting hobby (and potential cmmercial bonanza) at risk. Imagine we were in Russia, these would have been banned years ago. We are fortunate that it appears that the FAA is trying not to panic and to move deliberatively to get a policy that protects the unique contribution that UAVs can make to the US economy, besides being a hell of a lot of fun!

 

[kydan]

Let...this...thread...die.....

too many trolls! don't feed the trolls.

 

[Buckaye]

Re: When did the FAA first raise its "ugly head" ?

Let...this...thread...die.....

too many trolls! don't feed the trolls.

Amen