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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by cruicer24, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. cruicer24

    Jul 30, 2014
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    I am thinking about getting a DJI Phantom 2. I have been reading many many reviews with regards to "Fly-away" issues, issues with the battery, and the gimbals being a bit fragile on the Phantom 2 Vision plus.

    I am a novice at these things, and plan to take it slow and easy, but accidents will happen.

    How fragile are the gimbals?
    How easy is it to replace them?
    What is the main difference between the two besides the 3 axis gimbals and I believe a better camera / video on the Plus?
    Can a Phantom 2 vision be fitted with the 3 Axis gimbal / Phantom Vision 2 Plus Camera later down the road, say after I've learned how to fly it well?

    Looking for some advice, should I purchase the Phantom 2 Vision, or the Phantom 2 Vision Plus based on the novice experience level.

    If someone can give me pros and cons to each it would be very helpful.

    Thanks Dan
  2. J Dot

    Apr 10, 2014
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    Sarasota, FL. USA!
    Hello Dan,
    I will try to answer your questions:
    1) gimbal fragile:
    A) p2v ( very strong gimbal, survives crashes well,
    But only 1axis, up-down, you use the phantom for side-side
    Motion. Very high quality camera, takes beautiful stills and
    Video. You only loose rotation or roll capability. You get superman
    Like video ( as if YOU were actually flying ) I like the effect.

    B) P2V+ ( extremely fragile gimbal ) but remember, it is a FINELY
    TUNED piece of equipment. It does not hold up well in a crash. The camera
    Is very high quality, more mega-pixels the non plus model. Beautiful stills,
    And awesome video, SUPER STABLE, I've been shooting video, and thought the
    FPV froze up ( cause it was sooooo still ) come to find out it was just super stable,
    You have to see to appreciate! I cannot even describe it! Gimbel is also
    Upgradeable! ( coming soon ).

    C) P2 w/ HD-2d or HD-3d gimbals. Again anytime you have a finely tuned PRECISE
    unit like these, they will be very fragile, and not fare well in a crash
    Or hard landing! These use GO-pro cameras, but are very stable like the plus above!

    Really it is up to you, get whatever catches your eye! ( whatever model you like best )
    You CAN remove the gimbals, learn to fly the craft, then when satisfied
    With your piloting skills, re attatch the gimbal, and learn FPV!
    This can be done with ALL models!

    2) replacing gimbal!
    Super simple, to replace, the problem lies within the COST.
    P2V camera assembly $250 and up
    P2V+ camera assembly $700
    HD gimbals ( 2d-3d ) $300-$360
    So again, remove, learn, replace!

    3) I answered this question above ( difference )

    4) as of now NO you cannot put a P2V+ camera assembly on a P2V!
    ( maybe in the future )
    However, there are several gimbal options ( aftermarket: drone expert, taco, rotopixel, ect! )
    That use stock camera, and you can use a HD-2d or HD-3d on the phantom vision
    If you have the newer MC ( phantom main circuit board ) a few members here have done
    This and it works! ( I personally have not tried, but I'm sure a member here would be more than
    Happy to help you with it! ) but I do know it works!

    5) I will finish by saying this:
    Sit down and figure out what you want to do with your phantom?
    Do you want to fly for fun?
    Do you want to get SERIOUS about photography, or videography?
    If it is only for fun, and you have little interest in photography, or other,
    Than the vision is for you!
    If you want to be serious about your video, and pictures, editing, ect!
    I think the plus is for you!

    I have a P2V,
    I'm so happy with it, I LOVE to fly and shoot video, pics.
    I've been doodling with editing, sound, ect in my videos!
    Now that I'm a decent pilot, and can keep my bird under control
    I'm getting into videography, more and more. So I'm saving for a plus!
    But I assure you the vision WILL still be Flown A LOT!
    I want to use the PLUS for family events, vacation, things like that,
    Where I need good quality, stable shots! But the p2v will always come as
    Backup support!

    Don't worry about fly-a-ways, they are rare, and mostly user error. Just buy a tracking
    Unit and attach to phantom, that way if it does ever happen, you can still find it!
    I have well over 200 flights under my belt, with NO ISSUES, NO FLY-A-WAYS, NO CRASHES,
    Did have 1 hard landing ( my fault ) it has been great, always there when I need it to be!

    Also, you might want to invest in a flytrex unit for it, it is a cool feature!

    Take care, Fly safe!
  3. kydan

    Feb 23, 2014
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    Chattanooga, TN
    J Dot made good points.

    Have you thought about just getting the Phantom 2 and using a GoPro with a Zenmuse 2D or 3D? I'm not a fan of being locked into the video equipment that's on the Vision and Vision+.

    Several that have bought a Vision or Vision+ have regretted not being able to use the GoPro. My 2 cents.
  4. cruicer24

    Jul 30, 2014
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    Thanks a million for your feedback. Just need to get my wife to give me the ok....she doesn't understand men and their "toys"...
  5. Meta4

    Meta4 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 8, 2014
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    Except that there is no difference in the cameras.
  6. N017RW

    May 2, 2014
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    Palm Beach Co.- FL
    Ask not for permission but for forgiveness :p

    Been there ;)
  7. ProfessorStein

    Jun 20, 2014
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    Portland, OR
    What he said.

    The cameras are essentially the same. They just LOOK different because DJI wanted the more expensive product to remind people of a GoPro.

    But, in fact, the non-plus version of the camera is a better design since it's better balanced, and the lens is precisely on the center axis of the housing, IMHO.