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Discussion in 'Phantom 2 Vision Discussion' started by flyNfrank, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. flyNfrank

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    Hey Pilots, the others on the team felt it time to let you know what we've been up to. Well, after much frustration on not being able to search for useful info, and with no real way to get the search feature to work as it needs to, we we worked on creating another website. With the site growing and more and more data be added each day and nothing in place that archives the data lead to a unanimous vote to do something about it. We researched the available option, and we ended up purchasing professional software that not only has a great search feature, but a long list of additional features. The software is highly supported and updated on a regular basis. So now we have the site to a level that hobbyist can Register, tweak their Profile, and begin posting. The appearance, font sizes, color's, ect. are around 70% of being finished. I personally work very closely with the aftermarket and I already have a growing list of Sponsor's with some cool products in which we will be working close with them in being involved with the community. We are determined we to have to most advanced Multicopter website online. The new website is NOT a replacement for any other website's. It is considered, another option.

    Starting sometime next week we'll have our 1st give-away which consist of $100 FREE MONEY. When you find the time come register and help get the forum's filled up! http://multicopterpilots.com

    *Don't Forget! It's not like we're some 3rd party people. We are PhantomPilot Member's with great resources to put together an outstanding website.
     
  2. Seahorse

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    How many more post are you going to push...

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  3. FASTFJR

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    Here's the first thing your team can do. Change the font and change the color of your logo. The font sucks and the red makes it very hard to read. You have a long way to go before you become and "Outstanding Website"
     
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    Frank, I think some are being a bit hard on you but it is a bit 'off' to promote a rival forum on here. It is to the credit of Adam that he has allowed your post. I understand the feeling of excitement when you get some web space and realise it is quite easy to set up a forum. This is not meant to be patronising but take my advice, even if it works, running a forum is a daunting task. This happened to me several years ago when a cat of mine became ill. I realised her problem could be solved by feeding on raw food and not processed commercial food. I set up a web forum for other cat owners and it exploded very quickly and soon became extremely popular and it took me every spare moment to moderate it and keep the f***ing spammers at bay. After a few months I was very lucky and found a lovely group of cat owners who took it over from me. Adam runs this place with a light touch but I can assure you that behind the scenes he will be busy deleting endless cr*p.

    Looking at your site it does not seem to offer anything that the other quadcopter fora do not already cater for. As people get more involved in a specific model then places like this (PP) already do everything that is needed.

    So, good luck but imho it will either join the ranks of many, many similar attempts and drift into obscurity but even if it is successful you will find just what a lot of time it takes to administer it.
     
  6. gpauk

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    Learn what an apostrophe is, too..........

    And, anything that claims to be giving away free money, files for me under "likely to be a website that's going to try and infect my pc. Don't even look"!
     
  7. EMCSQUAR

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    Although it sounds like spam and a "hook", it's actually another new website for pilots. His approach may have sounded wrong but it is a valid site. Pull Up and a couple of others are on it already. Check it out before flaming him...
     
  8. gpauk

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    Oh good.. *Another* site worth reading to add to this, rcgroups, fpv.... And that's just this hobby. I need a time machine. :D
     
  9. pault

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    I know what you mean. Yesterday Pull up posted a link to a UK fpv forum with thousands of posts i did not even knew existed !
     
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    a wee bit hard on the poor chap :)

    I also run forums and his is NOT an easy one to set up, he has went for the VB format, its a costly option with a tonne of features (if he can get them working). its the same style that I use on several other sites (none being for quadcopters)
    There is plenty room in the field, might even be tempted to do a UK based one to rival the other UK forum that's run by a shop LOL
     
  11. flyNfrank

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    This is the 1st chance I have had to get back over here and post. I have to say I was totally shocked to see flamers jump on a fellow member. Thank you to those of you showed a little decency. And no I'm not a punctual with what I write. I put a period at the end and that gets me through the day.

    As for the new website, it is as it says in my signature. It's another option. If you are attempting to compare the two, then you are in deed foolish. As for administrating website's, owning them, or anything that you can possibly think of,...I own 3 total(1st one in 1998) and also admin 3 facebook's, 1 google+, and 2 twitter, 2 instagram, 2 whats app, 1 youtube channel, 5 cats, and 1 dog, 1 daughter who is graduating high school and starting her 1st year in college, and 1 lovely wife. So I have owned and ran a website for over 15yrs now. The last one I sold was in December 2011 for $230,000. It was a all motorcycle drag racing site. I set all site's up on dedicated server's. And use only vBulletin discussion boards. My #1 forte is the promotional aspect of whatever industry. I have new sponsor's with new products already lined for the new community.

    As for the new site, it at best could be considered a spin-off from this one. It does share in DJI products, but if you look it is actually a site for ALL what I call "Copter's". Had the site matched the names of forums list here, or had it shared a similar domain name per say "VisionPilots" or "djiPhantomPilots" then I could understand the harshness given here.

    As for this website. I came to this site with the same intentions as most others after buying my P2V. Right away I began making friends as in receiving PM's and sharing email addresses and some text messages. I began taking notice to the simple fact you little to no success with the search feature. I then noticed a few other things, and I then researched who owned this site as I thought I might offer that person a hand. Now from this point I'm not going to share my experiences in detail as it consist of people I'm not going to name for various reasons. I'm sure most can respect that. Anyway, after getting some questions I had answered I felt it would be more beneficial to everyone if I did what I had been thinking about doing, on my own so to speak. Along the way some "others" heard about it and contacted me to say they would gladly help if I room for them. So these members knew more about how the propeller's spun in certain areas then I did. I got to say here that all of this is only a fraction as to why a new site was created. The important thing for me was, was to have a site that would archived the info, as well as one that the info could be pulled up if searched for. The software used on this site will never do it needs to for these things to function.

    Ok so I really did feel bad for mentioning the new site on this one. It's actually the 1st time I have ever done it in all my years of owning a website. Had this been my site I would not agreed with it without speaking to the person 1st and finding out what their intentions were. So here is how I look at it. I'm NOT asking anyone to pull out of this site and go to another. The other site is an addition to all other sites that share similar interest. I guarantee the other site is no threat to this website, and never will be unless this one shuts down for whatever reason. Every one of the best people on this site could be members of the other one, and this site would still be here for a long time. What you guys really need to know about me is, I created the other site for my fellow members, and for any enthusiast that takes their hobby serious as I do. I love innovation, and it was impossible for me to see innovation happening from with in this community with this site as it is. It is a very unfortunate situation, but one thing is for sure, I do have control such a thing on the other site and the Pilots there will know their time spent helping one another, or data of any kind wont be out of touch. Btw, I think if some of you were to meet me in person you would see that my intentions are good. I apologize if I came off wrong.

    Frank
     
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    I was a bit shocked when I saw Frank had advertised the new site using this forum. I have checked out the link and sure enough its very early days so there is not a lot there.

    Over the past couple of days I have pondered the situation. Should I join it or just stay here.

    Phantom Pilots is still the best forum that I have found but its not without its faults. I like helping people and I used to do my fair share of helping newcomers for quite a while but it has grown very frustrating of late. The search function does suck and whilst I know about the google search trick, most visitors don't and hence we get the same questions every day over and over again. I don't blame the posters at all, its the system letting them down. Trouble is even the saints among us will tire of giving the same replies forever.

    When your starting out in this hobby there is a minefield of information to become familiar with if your to avoid costly mistakes. I have often thought there is a need for 'best practice' type documents where the considered wisdom is available to all stripped bare of the chatter, jokes, flames and thread hijacks that sometimes plague this place.

    Its a big ask for that to happen and Adam is one person who for reasons he alone knows prefers to run the place alone in a hands off fashion. I thank him for making it possible.

    So the world moves on. In the internet age it does not take people long to switch to a better product and I can see lots of people switching if that product exists, i.e. the new website. If you don't agree with that theory then just take a look at the Dronexpert and Rotorpixel Gimbal threads and see how people get hungry for one thing, defend it zealously and then ditch it for the new kid on the block.

    Lets not get sentimental about this. I want to see a forum that works for its members, is modern, is policed properly and where the nuggets of gold are brought together and easily available to all. Phantom Pilots is good but its not scoring on all of those points.

    I have not joined the new site yet and I was not party to its creation but having considered it I will be joining. Frank is putting his resources behind his project and its a free world so I won't be attacking him for that. I will just say thank you for trying to make something even better.

    Time will tell if the new site wins over this one. I wish both sites the very best and may the best forum win.
     
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    +1 for Shrimpy!

    Totally agree, I would like to thank Adam for starting this great resource, and if it helps I can give my 2 cents about how to add those few lines of code into this website to have a Google Search bar right on top underneath the navigation bar. (In my spare time from flying quadcopters, I code websites)

    To Frank,
    Its a great idea, but the UI for your new forum is very 1990s. The navigation is muddled, I know vBulletins has some templates that are not so dropshadow, text heavy--maybe you should try some of those?

    I love Adam's site just because its a very clean navigation and the main reason why I keep coming back.
     
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    +1

    For me, if this site had a better search and a few mods to keep the trolls at bay and to merge and move posts to the right sub-forum it would be perfect. A forum is only as good as its user base and the input they put in.

    I spent a good few months here just reading posts before I became a member. And I got my Phantom a few months after I joined. I learnt so much from this site I knew what I was doing even before I unboxed my Phantom. :lol:

    I also like the clean look of this site and the forum structure. Not too many sub-forums to wade through.
     
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    There are a considerable number of issues with this site including poor themes, bad (almost non-existent) sub-form layout, crap default search, poor image handing, URL linking and so on. The vast majority take a few minutes to resolve in the ACP or by installing an appropriate PHPBB plugin.

    None of which justifies spamming this forum with links for a competitor... :arrow:
     
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    thongbong, thanks for the input on the new site. I agree with you 100%. However, other then the current stupid logo, the rest of the site is 100% default. I have 3 other style's loaded on it now, but I decided not to worry about appearance until getting some of things taken care of on the priority ladder. There is forums that need name changes, forums that need added, and actually a huge list of just about everything to be honest. Regardless, the site will have it's own character. It really should never be compared to this one. They both will either have, or will have their own personalities.

    I'd like to point out that it is a little ridicules about a new site coming up. The ones to benefit from having multiple play grounds to play on, are us kids/members. Like play grounds that have different things to be active on, each website will offer things that others do not. Again, who benefits from that? I have absolutely no desire to be in a competitive state with any other similar website. If I could vote, I would be more interested in a network between them. You have a favorite restaurant in your area where you live. A new restaurant comes to town and guess what? You now have options on where to eat. I could go on and on but when it is all said and done, it's the members that tend to get the most benefit from it. And besides, it free. Who actually complains about things that are free anyhow. And unless you have personal reasons, do not leave this website just to join the new site. But yes please do join the new site as an extended option to all website that share in your hobbies.
     
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    The problem I have with yet another forum is that it may dilute this one. At the moment, this is without question the place to go if you have any questions about the Phantom family. As end users it will just be more hasssle to keep up to speed with two sites.

    As an example, say I had a question about battery management, which forum should I choose to ask it on ? Maybe the leading battery tech specialist may use one forum more than the other so to get the best answer I will have to post twice. Similarly, if I discover something that I think will interest other Phantom pilots should I post it in both places ?

    So instead of enhancing the information available and making life easier it will have the opposite effect.

    Adam, please sort out the search function then all will be well.
     
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    I agree that THIS forum needs to be sorted, its far to confusing and needs more mods helping out. Posts are all over the place and need to be categorised. I would rather this forum be tidied up rather than moving to a different site. That said, if this forum does not get sorted, then other options are now open ;)
     
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    Hi Frank...
    Given your experience I'm surprised you didn't realise that your original post had all the hallmarks of spam -- free $ and presumably hastily written language...
    A lot of us don't have time to keep up with several forums. I only read this and rcgroups out of the half dozen or so I'm already aware of. To change, yours would need to become pre-eminent. Perhaps it will.
    The search in here isn't great but nor is it in rcgroups. It's a lot better using a custom google search but still could be much better.
    So if you made yours really good, it would be great! Much too early to tell as yet...
    Trolls turn up everywhere -- you just ignore them, I don't see a problem there.
    In the meantime a quick comment. On your site, the content of the posts is only about 50% of the window width -- personally I hate all that wasted space, makes it slow to read. Perhaps that's just a default setting I can change, not had the time to check...

    Anyway - Good luck with it!