Apologies in advance. I suspect you get noobs in here every other week with this sort of issue. I did some browsing and cursory searches but didn't really see much. Then again, I didn't dig super deep. So again please forgive me my transgressions. After lots of research and lots of hemming and hawing about whether to pick up a used phantom or spring for an Inspire 1, I picked up a used phantom 2 gopro from craigslist last week. Pretty good deal I thought. Came with a Hero 3+, 3 batteries, an IOSD, 7" monitor, a case and all the chargers plus a small collection of all the required allen wrenches and screwdrivers. I already have a gopro and I liked the idea of having two so I'd be able to chenge the lens in one of them and thus have two different lens options to fly. A little background about me. I've got no real world RC plane or copter experience. But I do have lots of RC plane simulator experience. Years ago I started building an old RC balsa Piper Cub model I bought on ebay. I'm an ex-banner pilot and I wanted to build an RC model of the plane I used to fly for a living. I never finished it. However I did buy a futaba radio and transmitter for it and spent lots of time with a PC sim practicing for the day when I'd fly the plane for real. I dare say I got as competent as one could possibly get with an RC sim. One of the reasons I never finished the Cub project is because I got side tracked into kite photography which is where my RC radio and transmitter ended up getting used. So while I never finished or flew the cub, I do have a measurable amount of real world experience with RC radios and transmitters and I'm as well preprepared and anyone with no RC flight experience could be to deal with RC flight and the concepts of reverse control (left is right when flying toward yourself etc) and the like. So the kite photography thing led me to wanting a photography drone of some sort. Next logical step I guess as its sort of the perfect solution to get the camera in the air on days when the kites won't lift the rig. So I've bought this rig and I've now got 3 flights with it under my belt. And I'm ready to give up and sell it. 3 flights, 3 out of control crashes and every one of them for a completely different reason. First flight lasted about 20 seconds. I got it up into a hover, then it drifted off hard to the left and went to the ground. I did a compass calibration I think I did it right but I can't be sure so I suspect I did it wrong. Second flight I made sure I did the compass calibration right. But I'm not sure I had GPS lock or home point. All I know is I got it flying and seemed to have control. But I flew it out about 50 yards and then no matter what I did to try and bring it back, it would only get further away until it crashed. After that I went back to the drawing board. Updated the firmware on everything (I guess I wrongly assumed the previous owner would have done that) and scrutinized every setting. I switched from NazaM to Phantom mode. Did calibrations on the controller and the IMU. So the third flight? It wasn't really a flight at all. I very carefully did the compass calibration and verified the LED's responded accordingly. I was showing between 7 and 8 satellites on the IOSD screen and had slow green blinks for the LEDs. I powered on and got the motors turning. And then... Nothing. It just sat there idling when I went left stick up. No response at all. I went to power down and I think I might have moved the right stick a little faster than the left while doing the move. At that point, the rear rotors seemed to spool up which lifted rear end off the case and got it moving backward. The copter dropped to the snow covered ground hitting the front props on the case as they went down. It sunk into the snow and got stuck and one of the rear motors stopped, the other three still turning. And then... the other three seemed to go to full power. I was trying to get them to shut down but it wasn't responding at all. It was still stuck in the snow so it wasn't able to fly but the motors were going full speed and it was coming close to being able to break itself free. Then the forth motor got itself going again. So now I've got a coptor stuck in the snow with all four motors going full speed and absolutely not responding to anything I'm doing on the controller. I figure I should just reach for the button on the battery but I've got to get through two spinning props to reach it and I'm not keen on losing a finger. On the other hand its starting to work itself loose from the snow and if it goes up I have no idea where it will go as I no longer seem to have any control over it. At that point I figure this is a job for a size 11 boot so I start putting my boot into the prop arcs trying to break the props off or stop the motors so I can get my hand in close enough to turn the thing off before it takes off and goes rogue. This works and I get it shut off. So at this point I'm about done. I just do not see how I'll ever be able to trust this thing enough to fly it in proximity to people or buildings much less ever being able to fly it near anything I'd want to photograph. So before I put the ad on craigslist and get this thing out of my life for good I'd like to ask the experts. Am I wrong about ever being able to trust it? Are my expectations unrealistic? What am I missing here? I'm sure I've made noob mistakes here and I'm sure you folks will be able to point them out. The thing I can't away from is that every time I figure out my previous mistakes, it seems this device has more pitfalls that will cause it to go out of control at the drop of a hat if I don't throw exactly the right type of chicken bones at the exact right phase of the full moon while doing exactly the right dance and reciting exactly the right incantations in exactly the right dialect. Is it as complicated and dangerous as it now seems to be? I thought these things were supposed be user friendly and relatively bulletproof. Thanks for your input.