I have returned from another flight test. It started out with winds about 5mph, but then they dropped to calm. It was cloudy, cold(51 degree's F), and looked like it might rain.
First, I set Basic P/R together on X1, put with the knob all the way to the right, so 230 was max. I hovered about 10 to 15 feet up, and just watched, as I turned the knob...when it got down below 100%, it started to wobble...turning it up seem to make it better...but, at around 230%, it was a bit too sensitive, so I backed it down a hair to 220%-and now it doesn't wobble.
However-I need to test that in a wind(I had wind yesterday-and I think with the bigger props, the aircraft responds much more quickly to course corrections and drift in a wind-which may make it look like it's wobbling).
I then went through the vertical again, and really couldn't tell any difference between 115% and 90%.....anywhere I twisted the knob, was fine. But, in the lower range, it was lazy to go up and down, so I settled on 100% and called it good.
Last was yaw-again, I set the knob to max to the right at 230, and slowly turned it down, while yawing, and watching the camera on the monitor as well as the aircraft. I settled in at 175%, as that seemed the smoothest, and not quite as "twitchy" on the start/stop of the yaw moment as 230% was.
Then, I put a stock battery in, and went flying. The aircraft handled well. It was not overly sensitive at all, and responded well in all flight conditions and directions. It even flew faster, at a given pitch angle, than with the regular props-no surprise there. I got it up to 13m/sec, with only about 45% throttle, and I think about 12 degree's nose down....then, I just released the stick and the aircraft smoothly slowed to a hover-no wobble.
Went up to 100 feet, and slowly came down in forward flight-no surprises. I even did a "switch-back", where I was flying sideways quickly, then switched back to the other direction-this required a bit of extra throttle, and I moved it slightly forward to avoid the downwash, but it worked well.
Now-my big problem, still; is the dam rubber balls in the Zenmouse!!! I keep getting bouncing!!! It seemed to get better with the gray balls, before, with the stock props(temps around 50 degree's F and above).....but now, I just don't know what to do.
I have the white ones-they're the softest...
I may have to go back too the black ones....but, even then, I had some bouncing and jiggling at random points on a flight.
This gimbal does an excellent job of maintaining the camera level with the horizon-no issues there. But, it's dampening is non-existent. I'm almost to the point now, where I'm thinking of chucking the Zenmouse, and going with another gimbal.
And, I have the Original Zenmouse, with the Phantom 1.0 mount. Looks like they changed the mount/balls slightly for the Phantom 2.
But, that's OT....sorry, but it's driving me crazy!!!
My point here is this; each aircraft will behave differently. You must dial in your own gain settings using your tilt lever, or an extra channel on your remote(change to X1 or X2). Testing requires patience, and no wind. The aircraft is not more peppy, in my experience. And, if it wasn't for the wobble, would fly just fine with stock settings. So, "you're mileage may vary", applies here.
My experience has been, that even big changes in the gain-showed little change in aircraft behavior-with the exception of Basic P/R. Once you adjust a gain value-you have to wait, and watch. Fly the aircraft a bit, then stop, and see how it behaves.
Also-save your "default" settings in Naza-m software, before you change your 8" props. When you're done dialing in your Vision props-save that default file, and name if Vision Props, or whatever you want. This way-you can switch out props, and then just load the default file into Naza, and go fly.
First, I set Basic P/R together on X1, put with the knob all the way to the right, so 230 was max. I hovered about 10 to 15 feet up, and just watched, as I turned the knob...when it got down below 100%, it started to wobble...turning it up seem to make it better...but, at around 230%, it was a bit too sensitive, so I backed it down a hair to 220%-and now it doesn't wobble.
However-I need to test that in a wind(I had wind yesterday-and I think with the bigger props, the aircraft responds much more quickly to course corrections and drift in a wind-which may make it look like it's wobbling).
I then went through the vertical again, and really couldn't tell any difference between 115% and 90%.....anywhere I twisted the knob, was fine. But, in the lower range, it was lazy to go up and down, so I settled on 100% and called it good.
Last was yaw-again, I set the knob to max to the right at 230, and slowly turned it down, while yawing, and watching the camera on the monitor as well as the aircraft. I settled in at 175%, as that seemed the smoothest, and not quite as "twitchy" on the start/stop of the yaw moment as 230% was.
Then, I put a stock battery in, and went flying. The aircraft handled well. It was not overly sensitive at all, and responded well in all flight conditions and directions. It even flew faster, at a given pitch angle, than with the regular props-no surprise there. I got it up to 13m/sec, with only about 45% throttle, and I think about 12 degree's nose down....then, I just released the stick and the aircraft smoothly slowed to a hover-no wobble.
Went up to 100 feet, and slowly came down in forward flight-no surprises. I even did a "switch-back", where I was flying sideways quickly, then switched back to the other direction-this required a bit of extra throttle, and I moved it slightly forward to avoid the downwash, but it worked well.
Now-my big problem, still; is the dam rubber balls in the Zenmouse!!! I keep getting bouncing!!! It seemed to get better with the gray balls, before, with the stock props(temps around 50 degree's F and above).....but now, I just don't know what to do.
I have the white ones-they're the softest...
I may have to go back too the black ones....but, even then, I had some bouncing and jiggling at random points on a flight.
This gimbal does an excellent job of maintaining the camera level with the horizon-no issues there. But, it's dampening is non-existent. I'm almost to the point now, where I'm thinking of chucking the Zenmouse, and going with another gimbal.
And, I have the Original Zenmouse, with the Phantom 1.0 mount. Looks like they changed the mount/balls slightly for the Phantom 2.
But, that's OT....sorry, but it's driving me crazy!!!
My point here is this; each aircraft will behave differently. You must dial in your own gain settings using your tilt lever, or an extra channel on your remote(change to X1 or X2). Testing requires patience, and no wind. The aircraft is not more peppy, in my experience. And, if it wasn't for the wobble, would fly just fine with stock settings. So, "you're mileage may vary", applies here.
My experience has been, that even big changes in the gain-showed little change in aircraft behavior-with the exception of Basic P/R. Once you adjust a gain value-you have to wait, and watch. Fly the aircraft a bit, then stop, and see how it behaves.
Also-save your "default" settings in Naza-m software, before you change your 8" props. When you're done dialing in your Vision props-save that default file, and name if Vision Props, or whatever you want. This way-you can switch out props, and then just load the default file into Naza, and go fly.
