P2V+ was my first DJI bird and I immediately called BS on the stated max 25 minute flight time. I'd get max 14 minutes flying it from 100-20% battery. Now I'm flying the P3A+ and getting about 30% more time out of it, or about 18 minutes flying 100-20% battery. DJI still says approximately 23 minutes for the P3 (I still call BS on that since I'm only getting 18 and you're typically not going to push your batteries further than that but I'm willing to overlook that since I'm pleased with the improvement). But then I realize I was flying the P2V+ with prop guards and have abandoned them on the P3A. I sold my P2 so I can't easily test it. So what are the flight times you are getting with your birds? Do you see an improvement over your P2's? What flight time reduction have you experienced by using prop guards? For ease of comparison use the following format: bird/average flight time/yes or no-prop guards: P2V+/14 minutes/yes-prop guards P3A/18 minutes/no-prop guards I know there are lots of variables but I bet we see some trends.