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I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to pick

Discussion in 'FPV (First Person View)' started by Tjolahejsanhopp, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Tjolahejsanhopp

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    Hello everyone, I'm glad to finally be a part of this forum. I've been reading a lot here before but haven't registered until now.

    Yeah, you just read the subject and are thinking "haven't we already discussed this issue like 100(0) times before?" and you are right, of course. I've read every thread about this subject I could find on this forum and others, but I still don't know what the bloody fudge to do. So I was hoping, maybe you could help me make this decision once and for all.

    I'm ultimately looking for a FPV system for the Phantom 2 (with zenmuse h3-3d) that I will use for both recording videos and taking images that has the following features:
    * range that surpass the range of the radio controller, preferably better than that if I decide to upgrade to a Futuba with greater range in the future.
    * a screen that's good enough to use in daylight.
    * as high quality screen as possible.
    * no built in batteries as I'd prefer to be able to just switch batteries when they die.
    * no lipo battery wiring on the back of the monitor as I'd like to keep this as clean and simple as possible.

    So these are the options I've found:

    1. Lilliput 664
    Considering quality quite important I've been looking at the Lilliput 664 which seems to have the best screen. But people seem to have so much problems with it that I dunno if I dare go for it? Does anyone have any news on the receiver problems? I read maybe Lilliput was looking into it?
    + great quality screen.
    + hdmi
    + can use canon LP-e6 batteries which I use a lot.
    - bad receiver/range (but can be fixed partly by using the right antennas)

    2. Black Pearl
    + seems to work at ok range
    - there's still no batteries available for purchase!?
    - screen quality not as good as Lilliput 664.

    3. Lilliput 329
    I've just read one single user mentioning this screen, and he/she seemed to like it. Does anyone else have more to say about this screen?
    + ok receiver/range
    + can use canon LP-e6 batteries.
    - screen quality not as good as the Lilliput 664. But how does it compare to the Black Pearl?

    4. Boscam
    + does it really have better reception than the Black Pearl? How many of you have experienced that?
    * how's the image quality compared to the Black Pearl?


    It's a **** shame the Lilliput 664 doesn't work better as I wouldn't mind spending the extra cash getting a better screen.

    I feel as if I'm stuck here. I just don't know which road to take... Is there an obvious choice? Please enlighten me with your wisdom and make my choice a bit easier!
     
  2. chino316

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    your gonna want this kit its all plug and play heres what you need when you buy this kit don't use the stock transmitter it came with its weak buy the immersion rc 600 i'll post the link for everthing you need and a plug and play for the iosd mini and immersion rc 600 with a youtube video on how to install very easy and no soldering!

    https://www.gothelirc.com/shopexd.asp?id=1980 (black pearl fpv kit don't bother using there transmitter when it arrives)

    https://www.gothelirc.com/shopexd.asp?id=2050 (black pearl monitor charger)

    https://www.gothelirc.com/shopexd.asp?id=1599 (carbon fiber monitor holder for your remote control can be used also on dji 1 and 2)

    http://www.getfpv.com/5-8ghz-600mw-video-tx.html (immersion rc 600 transmitter)

    http://www.firstpersonview.com/cables/d ... tter-cable (plug and play cable)

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 ... e:IN+STOCK#inpage:Shipping+:++$?gclid=CjkKEQjw_ZmdBRD1qNKXhomX_sEBEiQAc9XNUF39yUdcnn42ki0Uzes50AEeSdMcoBAKdGwnPp64F5fw_wcB (iosd mini)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ido6peKTKKo (video of plug and play installation)

    this is all you need to get started hope this helps
     
  3. GhostMaster

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    My advice for a cheap FPV system that works and its very easy to install, almost plug and play, takes 5min to install on phantom.

    Video Tx to install on the phantom:
    Boscam TS353 400mw: http://j.mp/1gJ6t7s

    LCD with Receiver and battery:
    Boscam 7" RX-LCD5802 5.8GHz Diversity Receiver: http://j.mp/1lZuham
    LCD Battery Charger: http://j.mp/1h3CreQ

    I used this with great sucess, you can expect at least 1km with stock antennas (without any obstacles), and if you change to better antennas you can get 2km or more. :)
     
  4. olly3010

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    I have this same setup and included the DJI iOSD mini and upgraded to some antennas from FPVLR.com and get great results.
     
  5. evilfurryone

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p


    Same here, setup in my sig. I have gotten 2 km on a open field, probably will get even better because high voltage power lines at that range could have just interfered with the signal. Used the banggood helical and cloverleaf antennaes.

    You will need some soldering, so if you dont know how, ask a friend who knows to do it. Not hard for them, me as n00b just did not want to mess it up.
     
  6. dollerprod

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    Just wondering why you need to solder? Is the Boscam not compatible with the plug and play cable?

    Sorry if stupid question..
     
  7. OI Photography

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    Not directly, the connectors on that cable are for FatShark and other Immersion transmitters. To use it with boscam would require splicing (soldering or crimping) the proper type of connectors.
     
  8. dollerprod

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    Sorry OP not trying to hijack. If you tell me to GTFO I will.. :D


    Well if the plug and play cable is not compatible with Boscam Tx, then I think I'd just as soon spend the extra ~$20 for immersionrc Tx and save myself the soldering trouble...

    But then, for the monitor, if I am using immersionrc/Fatshark Tx, what is the advantage of the FlySight RC801 Black Pearl for $300 vs. the Boscam RX LCD 5802 monitor for $159?

    The Boscam monitor would work just as fine with the immsersionrc Tx as it would with the Boscam Tx correct? Unless there is some other real advantage the more expensive one has over the other (is there?), I'll try and save the extra $150..

    I really have no idea or experience with this type of stuff but I'm trying to figure it out :D
     
  9. Frendel

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    Heeey,
    (it's me, the thread-starter, I changed account name, wasn't happy with the original name)

    Thanks to all of you for the friendly and helpful replies! ****, I didn't notice your replies until now, I thought I was supposed to get some kind of notification when there was a reply *being a noob* :D

    Anyhow! I ended up reading about ~150-200 more pages in different threads here on the forum and came to the conclusion that the following was the best setup for me. I've already ordered the stuff!

    * Black Pearl SEVEN channels/F-band only - which supposedly work extra well with the ImmersionRC 600mw.
    * Extra battery for the Black Pearl.
    * ImmersionRC TX 600mw video transmitter.
    * DJI iOSD Mini.
    * DJI plug & play cable for the iOSD Mini & ImmersionRC.
    * Horizon Black Pearl Kit with BH (Black Hawk), Nimrod and SP (Skew Planar).
    * Futaba T14SG.
    * Rave Creative Futaba T14SG monitor mount.
    * (and of course) DJI Phantom 2 w/ Zenmuse H3-3D & carrying back-pack.
    * 2 extra Phantom 2 batteries.
    * Multi charger (3 batteries at the same time) for Phantom 2 batteries

    I think that's about it, if I haven't forgotten anything :) Am I missing something I should be getting you think? (A proper hard case is something I'll be getting soon)
     
  10. evilfurryone

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    Re: I'm stuck and simply don't know which P2 FPV system to p

    You have a gopro 3+ already? couple of 32 gig memory cards as well?
    Also if you decide you want to install the anti interference board that would need some re-arrangement of cables. There are some youtube videos available.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBlrZpWNnhs

    some velcro straps to hold the stuff together below the drone as well I guess. Unless you want to fit it all inside? I put my iOSD inside and vtx is on the outside looking to the side (so you have the same video signal when you decide to turn around at long distance).

    Let us know how the installation and setup goes, seems you going all out with even a new controller. Will be useful for other newbies looking to get into the FPV scene if this all works out of the box and minimal installation.