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I need help: P3P crashed and total-loss immediately After “Aircraft disconnected” error

Discussion in 'Pro/Adv Discussion' started by Barend Houtsmuller, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. Barend Houtsmuller

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    Yesterday afternoon, after a normal starting procedure, my Phantom 3 Professional took off for a beautiful flight above the marsh area at Woerdens Verlaat, The Netherlands.
    After I took two pictures and two minutes of flight at 200 meters distance, I suddenly got an error message “Aircraft disconnected”. I pushed the go-to-home button on the screen, but it was already to late. I heard my P3P crashing and saw it falling into the swamp.
    I was not able to repossess the P3P, because the location is an inaccessible area. There are no boats, it is a protected area for walking. The water is too muddy and cold for swimming. So I lost it forever.

    Has anyone also had such an experience?
    It is a known problem that the P3P just disconnect? Can I claim my loss to the supplier?

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  2. With The Birds

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    Upload your flight record to www.healthydrones.com (instructions on the website if you need them) and post a link here. That may give us some clues.
     
  3. Meta4

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    Just a guess but I would suspect that the indication that the aircraft disconnected was a symptom of a more serious problem.
    A disconnection doesn't cause a crash - but a loss of power would cause a disconnection.
    HealthyDrones gives very limited information.
    To get more information,
    Go to http://www.phantomhelp.com/LogViewer/Upload/
    Follow the instructions to upload your flight record from your tablet.

    If you are using an Android phone or tablet, the flight records are in Internal Storage/DJI/dji.pilot/FlightRecord
    They are all txt files and the file name includes the date.

    Come back and post a link to the report it provides.
    Some of the experienced people may be able to work out what happened which would be useful for any claim.
     
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  4. alokbhargava

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    It's difficult to analyze the correct situation in absence of logs. Please post them here.
     
  5. robinb

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    Is it possible you got hit by a bird as you are near water ?
     
  6. Barend Houtsmuller

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    I understand that it is impossible to retrieve the flight logs when your quadcopter is lost
     
  7. Oso

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    From the link @Meta4 posted earlier:

    Need help finding your flight logs? For Android devices, connect your device to a computer via a USB cable and go to "DJI/dji.pilot/FlightRecord". For Apple devices, see this video for instructions on retrieving your logs from iTunes.
     
  8. Barend Houtsmuller

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    are there trees I see out there by the swamp? Sounds like maybe you hit one at 57 feet altitude turning left at 3 minutes 27 seconds.
     
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    Barend Houtsmuller, please upload your log here.
     
  11. Barend Houtsmuller

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    Thanks:
    Here I post my flight records. It is strange to notice that the altitude drops to 1.50m just before the connection fails. Has anyone has a clue what might have happened. The key problem remains that suddenly the aircraft disconnected, without any prior alarms

    HealthyDrones.com - Innovative flight data analysis that matters
     
  12. Barend Houtsmuller

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    Thanks. See my flight records at:
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  14. Barend Houtsmuller

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    There are indeed trees and bushes. But, why should there be an "aircraft-disconnected" issue? Even if the P3P did hit a tree, you normally would not loose connection.
     
  15. Meta4

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    As I said, HealthyDrones doesn't give any detailed information and it's impossible to see anything related to your problem with their analysis.
    There will be a lot more information to work with if you use the analysis tool at: http://www.phantomhelp.com/LogViewer/Upload/
    The lost connection appears to be after you lost the Phantom - not a contributing factor to losing the Phantom.
     
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    Mate it doesnt that that far out,if it was me i woulda been in right after the drone...to much money
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    That does look like a real possibility. I also notice what looks like sharp drop and rise in battery temperature towards the end of the flight. Falling into water perhaps?
     
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    Do not count on the altitude reading on your controller to be correct! I was recently flying mine in follow me mode at 60 feet according to my tablet. It flew into a tree that wasn't more than 35 feet tall. It went out of control and ended up landing on the road. The camera broke off of the gimbal, knocked a couple of antennas out of the legs and possibly did some internal damage. It sounds like that may be why yours went down. I did access my flight log on the tablet and it shows the whole thing. For some reason I didn't get video, but I might have accidentally bumped the record button and shut it off as I started following. I decided to buy a new P3P and either try to fix the damaged one, or keep it for parts.
     
  19. rene van der meer

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    Barend I am sorry for the loss. I don't know if DJI will compensate it when there is no drone to return.
    There is a DJI local office in Barendrecht. If you send me a message (Facebook?) I will give you their number so you can call them.
     
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    two option I can think of, hit something and ejected battery or the battery wasnt clicked in well and it self ejected. If it was a typical crash, he would have seen the typical errors in the log (motor obstructed, etc). Sounds like a complete power loss. It does seem a bit strange that you only have one battery voltage reading (cells) at the beginning of the flight. I thought it took it every 30 seconds or so.