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GPS Attacks and hacking a P3... what is DJIs take?

Discussion in 'Pro/Adv Discussion' started by Stephan, Aug 15, 2015.

  1. Stephan

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    Although the probability of this happening is remote... it is possible

    Watch GPS Attacks That Can Kill DJI Drones Or Bypass White House Ban
    there’s a vulnerability in GPS affecting most commercial drones that would allow a nearby hacker to spoof signals, change coordinates and commandeer an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) and take it wherever they wanted, whether that’s the White House or Dulles airport. That’s according to researchers from China’s Qihoo, who demonstrated their attacks using the free and open source GNU Radio, amongst other tools, to alter the GPS coordinates on a DJI Phantom 3. Thanks to free or cheap software defined radio tools, and the old, broken GPS standard, it’s now inexpensive and relatively straightforward to carry out attacks on GPS, Lin Huang and Qing Yang warned.

    READ ON
     
  2. Meta4

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    Yes ... hypothetically possible.
    But the chances that you'll be flying right where an incredibly well organised hacker just happens to be ready for you ...... zero.
     
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  3. Stephan

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    hence... my statement
     
  4. Prometric

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    It's like a fly away, flip to atti and bring back manually.
     
  5. Meta4

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    Possible vs Probable?
    To set himself up for this hypothetical scenario, how much would this imaginary hacker have to spend?
    And then he would have to stake out a flying location and wait, and wait until his target appears within range.
    Why?
    What would be the purpose of this exercise?
    Could the hacker do anything more than steal a Phantom (but no charger or Tx)?
    If he was smart enough to set this up, he's smart enough to realise that he could buy a P3 a lot cheaper, easier and faster.

    It's not going to happen.
    As something to worry about, it's right up there with werewolves and zombies.
     
  6. Stephan

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    @Meta4, you are making a bigger deal of this than it needs to be... and essentially turning into an unnecessary debate... sure it is improbable... and highly unlikely... as the article suggests it is possible and improbable from a major crime perspective... we already agreed on that.

    What is highly likely is a couple of smart kids will try to attempt it for fun... no zombies or werewolfs would be present in that scenario too I suspect... :)

    **edit... what the article did state was that it is in fact easy and cheap to do...
     
  7. LUISMARTINEZ

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    Forgot vampires.
     
  8. Stephan

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    everyone knows vampires fly Phantoms hence why we have not discussed them particularly.
     
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    this would never really work to be honest... although it's a good "denial of service" for the GPS system, causing a random crash or as most inexperienced pilots call a "flyaway".