All the gimbal craziness seems illogical, childish and a simple bad investment. My next path will be to invest the $400/$600 gimbal money in a bigger copter to get eXtended flight times (dual batteries), larger payload and possibly a camera with zoom capabilities. I thoroughly enjoy my P2V and have done all the normal upgrades. (7th channel, lens filter kit, antenna mods, controller stickers, sweet case etc.. Investing a quarter of your initial $1200 into one upgrade seems a waste for what you're getting. $100 would seems fair. I'm sure I will continue this hobby for years to come but for my money the $400/$600 gimbal money will go to help finance another copter. The vision is great but taking 5 minutes away from flight time seems to be a backwards upgrade! I understand to each his own and the gimbals all look great. My vision flys great for 20 minutes, takes eXcellent video's and stills. For under $1600 you can get Flamewheel F550 2x5500mAh batteries, Walkera 10 channel radio, charger plus Gopro 3+black. or get the RTF Flamewheel F550 for $1099 add a gopro for $400 and there ya go. (10 minute flight time) dual batteries for more flight time Is my logic flawed? let the flaming begin..