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FPV Monitor and Questions - Lilliput 664 w

Discussion in 'Phantom 2 Discussion' started by brianweis, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. brianweis

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    For the lilliput 664 w Monitor I have the following questions
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...tiveASIN=B00F2O3PY2&linkCode=as2&tag=infodump

    1) Is anyone running FPV with this monitor with a Phantom 2 (p2). (if so share your setup - transmitter type, iosd mini? cables needed, mount, etc)

    2) It says it works with Fatshark - which is the immersion transmitters...correct?

    3) Does it also work with the DJI AVL58 transmiters?

    3b) As an aside...is there a better model between the two, one that has less flyaways, etc between immersion vs avl58

    3) Maybe a dumb question but can you add the clover antennas?

    4) As far as charging the moniter..is it a wall plug? Or do you have to remove the battery?

    5) What type of mounting solution is needed? Would this work -
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/151212131981?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

    Sorry if any of the questions are easy or dumb...I am ready to jump into a FPV setup world and have no problem spending the money for good quality stuff just do not want to buy the wrong stuff.

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!!!
     
  2. brianweis

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    There was a conversion started about best monitors and I was corresponding on that one but since it was a conversion about monitors in general I started a new thread to avoid having to read 4-5 pages of multiple strings of conversations.
     
  3. ianwood

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    I have it. Great screen. Worth the extra money. There are different versions for different frequencies so be sure to get the right one. Note the Immersion RC 600mW TX is not compatible with this screen. It can take a variety of batteries but you need to buy them separately.
     
  4. Diemonkey

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    I recently received the Lilliput 664/w as well as the AVL58 package.
    I had assumed that the monitor was able to communicate with the AVL58.
    I have been unable to have the monitor receive the info from the AVL58 transmitter.
    After messing about with cables, I was able to hook up the AVL58 receiver to the monitor and communicate with the Transmitter.

    I may be missing something... If anyone else has been successful in figuring out how this all goes together,
    Please let us know :)
     
  5. brianweis

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    After the initial post someone pointed out the monitor I linked to did not have the matching frequencies. There are two monitors with different frequencies with same name.

    This one has frequencies ending on zeros - 0's - I believe for fat shark/immersion
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...tiveASIN=B00F5UJK9C&linkCode=as2&tag=infodump

    This one has frequencies ending in fives - 5's - for dji avl58
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...tiveASIN=B00HG1YPV6&linkCode=as2&tag=infodump

    View frequencies for the avl58 - my guess is they have to match
    http://www.hobby-wing.com/dji-5-8g-video-link.html

    So if it does not hook up you will have to exchange for the other monitor. I did notice one ebay seller claim the monitor would work for both and listed the channels ending in zero. Unless I stand corrected, it would not work.

    Can Anyone else confirm the above frequencies need to match.

    As a separate question...how and what are you mounting to. Is the battery standard or do you drop a camera batter into it?
     
  6. ianwood

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    It sounds like you got the version with the FatShark frequencies and not the other version. There are different versions with different frequency set ups. So you need to make sure you order the one that matches the frequencies on your TX.

    As for mounting, the Lilliput has a standard tripod mount at the bottom. There are a couple of options to mount this on your RC. There are some "carbon fiber" mounts that attach to the metal handle at the back of your RC. eBay has thousands of them. As long as they have the tripod mount and work on a standard RC.
     
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    Actually, neither of those matches the AVL58. This is the one you'd want to get -- the one with the default 664W channel frequencies. Those match the AVL58 Tx:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FPT1EWO/ref=ox_ya_os_product
     
  8. brianweis

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    Question. I tested it today. Channel 1 on moniter. Channel 8 (I think on avl58) I am not sure what to expect but it was not super clear. It was fuzzy at times. I never flew more than 200 feet away. The picture broke up at times. Like watching and old antenna tv at grandmas during a rain storm. Is this normal or are my expectations too high living in this ultra clear high definition world?!


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  9. ianwood

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    It's analog so it's more like your grandma's TV than it is your HD TV. Breakups, little pops of static, can happen even in close range depending on LOS and potential interference in the area but they should only briefly interrupt the signal. At 200ft, you should have no real noticeable degradation in reception. You should use spironet antennas and the TX spironet on the copter should be pointing straight down. You will find when you rotate the P2 so the antenna is on the side opposite you, the signal will get a little worse.
     
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    Dji the 70's are calling.... They want the snow storm in grandmas tv back. lol Ok...thanks. It is amazing technology and for framing shots this is awesome.


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    Why would the Immersion RC 600mW TX not be compatible with this monitor, yet the 250mW tx is? Are they that different? I would have thought that they would be very similar, except for the output wattage.
    I have the Immersion RC 600mW transmitter, and had bought this monitor before I saw this post about them being incompatible.
    I have been waiting for the weather to cooperate so I could fly it out and do some range tests. Finally today, the weather (mostly) cooperated. I flew my phantom 2 out to 600 meters (40 meters altitude) just fine with only the occasional static on the screen. It was starting to snow, so I didnt want to push my luck any further, so I turned it around, and flew it back. There was a bit more static while I was turning around, but it cleared up as soon as I was fully turned around.
    I will wait for a little better day to push the range out further than 600 meters, but that seems pretty respectable to me for mostly static free video.
    My phantom 2 was fully loaded with zenmuse gimbal, hero 3 black, immerson rc 600mw tx with fat shark spironet antenna, flytrex core, and garmin gtu 10.
    I have the Lilliput 644 with the fat shark frequencies.
    What sorts of range do folks get the the 250mw tx?
    Tom
     
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    Man... I'm glad its working. This is the exact same set-up I'm going with. I also ordered the IB crazy ultra mushroom ant. I sure how it all works!
     
  13. carlp778

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    I've both the Lilliput 664w monitor and avl58 transmitter and I can't get them to work together. On paper they both work on the same frequences (i bought the default monitor) and double checked the frequencies on the avl58 but still nothing.
    Anyone else found a solution to this would really appreciate it.
    thanks
    carl