FAA registration for an N number

[kenjancef]

Hmmmm... I just got back from the Washington DC FSDO, and when I told the lady there what I was trying to do, she just gave me the 8050-1. They are making this needlessly painful.

I guess you're supposed to know that the 8050-88 would help. Never would have known unless I made the call. Unless it's ont he website somewhere...

 

[Larry L]

Both my P2V+ & P3 are registered. When I did my P2V+, it was a PIA. Now they have the info on the web. It seemed like they were really trying to make it easier.
Aircraft Registry – Aircraft Registration: Unmanned Aircraft (UA)
I got the 8050-1 form. Filled it out. I then typed out all the bullets in word for registration & then filled out the info the bullets asked for as far as:

A full description of the UA provided by the manufacturer or builder in a Notarized statement is required when the UA model is not produced under a U.S. Type Certificate.
UA Required Description Items

• Full Legal Name of UA Manufacturer or Builder
• UA Model Designation
• UA Serial Number
• Class (Airplane, Airship, Rotorcraft, Gyroplane, Ducted Fan)
• UA Maximum Takeoff Weight
• Category (Land, Sea, or Both)
• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (If none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (Given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet)

Go through each steps. I even sent in a copy of my bill of sale from UAV Direct along with a photo of the matching SN#. Had it notarized & sent it off. I actually had my new N# within a week.
Good luck.

 

[turbulence]

I just sent my documents for registration yesterday. I sent in the following documents:


· Notarized sUA letter (the description items and sample verbiage)

· Notarized AC Form 8050-88

· Online receipt and packing slip from DJI North America

· AC Form 8050-1

· $5.00 check made to FAA

I'm hoping it goes through without any hitches. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the pink copy of the 8050-1 is good as a temporary registration? I'm legal to fly commercially? I already have a 333 exemption and a PPL.

 

[mjw]

My process was pretty much the same, except I didn't get the 8050-88 with the stuff that was sent back. Even the lady I spoke with wasn't sure why I didn't get them. I filled out a contact form on the FAA web site, asking for a copy of the form, got it within a week of the request. And I actually got 2 forms, I guess in case I messed one up. Wanna bet I still was VERY careful filling it out?? lol...

I dropped my revised info in the mail on Tuesday, so we'll see what happens...

Hmmmm... I just got back from the Washington DC FSDO, and when I told the lady there what I was trying to do, she just gave me the 8050-1. They are making this needlessly painful.

well get ready you have to fill out an 8050-88 as well Affidavit of Ownership......it would so nice if the FAA just published a step by step, form by form, list of what one needs to do instead of preparing forms, sending them and and getting turned down with a letter wanting more information - but heck the government can't even fly its own blimps - I don't think a Phantom has every knocked out power for thousands of people - just sayin'

 

[mjw]

I just sent my documents for registration yesterday. I sent in the following documents:


· Notarized sUA letter (the description items and sample verbiage)

· Notarized AC Form 8050-88

· Online receipt and packing slip from DJI North America

· AC Form 8050-1

· $5.00 check made to FAA

I'm hoping it goes through without any hitches. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the pink copy of the 8050-1 is good as a temporary registration? I'm legal to fly commercially? I already have a 333 exemption and a PPL.

You should be successful - good luck!

 

[mjw]

I just sent my documents for registration yesterday. I sent in the following documents:


· Notarized sUA letter (the description items and sample verbiage)

· Notarized AC Form 8050-88

· Online receipt and packing slip from DJI North America

· AC Form 8050-1

· $5.00 check made to FAA

I'm hoping it goes through without any hitches. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the pink copy of the 8050-1 is good as a temporary registration? I'm legal to fly commercially? I already have a 333 exemption and a PPL.

According the verbiage on the form - that would be my guess

 

[Nathan1994]

What is the "engine power output" value? All I can find is kV output?

 

[kenjancef]

What is the "engine power output" value? All I can find is kV output?

There is no section on the 8050-88 for engine output, I just looked. So I have no idea what you'd put there...

 

[Nathan1994]

It's not on the 8050-88, put part of the sUA description they ask you to include.
IE:

• Full Legal Name of UA Manufacturer or Builder
• sUA Model Designation
• sUA Serial Number
• Class (Airplane, Airship, Rotorcraft, Gyroplane, Ducted Fan)
• sUA Maximum Takeoff Weight
• Category (Land, Sea, or Both)
• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop

 

[turbulence]

This is what I put:


· Full Legal Name of UA Manufacturer or Builder – DJI

· sUA Model Designation – Phantom 3 Professional

· sUA Serial Number – xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

· Class – Rotorcraft UAS

· sUA Maximum Takeoff Weight – 1300g

· Category - Land

· Name of Engine Manufacturer - DJI

· Engine Model Designation – 2312A

· Engine Serial-Numbers - none

· Number of Engines - 4

· Engine Power Output – 960KV

· Engine Type - Electric

 

[mjw]

There is no section on the 8050-88 for engine output, I just looked. So I have no idea what you'd put there...

Tha info is not needed on the 8050-88 - it asks for manufacturer / serial # , # of engines - the FAA in their letter to me said to put 'No manufacturer or model #" under manufacturer / serial 3 of each engine - form went through just fine

 

[Nathan1994]

Thanks for the info guys. Sent my paperwork out today. Fingers crossed!

 

[SteveMann]

And the FAA wants all model aircraft registered by the end of the year......
LOL - Har-de-har

 

[mjw]

And the FAA wants all model aircraft registered by the end of the year......
LOL - Har-de-har

I wonder if the rouge blimp was register :>)

 

[SteveMann]

I wonder if the rouge blimp was register :>)

Yes, it was. It's a military aircraft and each branch of the military maintains their own aircraft registry.

 

[virtualimpact]

Well I thought i did everything right and followed all the directions from the FAA and posted here...but got a letter back from the FAA that I hadn't included an affidavit with the name and address of the seller...which I did but mysteriously wasn't returned. It was an Amazon receipt with proof of delivery as well as a notarized statement as required by the FAA. But now they also want this...

A full description of the UA provided by the manufacturer, builder or applicant in a Notarized statement.
sUA Required Description Items

• Full Legal Name of UA Manufacturer or Builder
• sUA Model Designation
• sUA Serial Number
• Class (Airplane, Airship, Rotorcraft, Gyroplane, Ducted Fan)
• sUA Maximum Takeoff Weight
• Category (Land, Sea, or Both)
• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet)

How have others dealt with this when requesting their N numbers or did I just luck out on the examiner who opened the envelope? Also tried to call the FAA for help but ' due to the high volume of calls we have received we cannot accept your call at the moment." click.

So..where did I go wrong. Oh..the letter also said " United States registration number N has been assigned" Huh?

Andrew

Out of curiosity what did you put down for:

• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet)

I have a Phantom 3 Pro and I am looking for that information. Thanks

 

[THG Aviation]

• Name of Engine Manufacturer DJI Innovations
• Engine Model Designation DJI model # DJI-PH3-PO7
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none') none
• Number of Engines 4
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust) No information provided by manufacturer other than each engine (motor) is rated at 960Kv
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet) Electric

BUT if you have the newer Phantom 3P the Engine model number will have changed and the motor rating in Kv may have changed so check that out.

Andrew

 

[mjw]

Out of curiosity what did you put down for:

• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet)

I have a Phantom 3 Pro and I am looking for that information. Thanks

My letter (first rejection) pertaining to the affidavit said to enter manufacturer unknown pertaining to all the items above - except # engines (4) -- did not enter any output information - said engines were electric - I received a second letter telling me I put the wrong info for Name I put my name instead of DJI (DUH) - but the form was not really clear as to what info was required , when i called and finally got through to the FAA they helped me out and allow me to correct the notarized affidavit and resubmit - I now have an N#

 

[BigAl07]

Out of curiosity what did you put down for:

• Name of Engine Manufacturer
• Engine Model Designation
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none')
• Number of Engines
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust)
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet)

I have a Phantom 3 Pro and I am looking for that information. Thanks

Here's what I put down (and I have my N# already back and on my aircraft)

• Name of Engine Manufacturer (blank)
  
• Engine Model Designation (My form doesn't have this)
  
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none') (Blank)
  
• Number of Engines (4)
  
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust) (My form doesn't have this)
  
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet) (Electric)

 

[Nathan1994]

Here's what I put down (and I have my N# already back and on my aircraft)

• Name of Engine Manufacturer (blank)
  
• Engine Model Designation (My form doesn't have this)
  
• Engine Serial-Numbers (if none shown, enter 'none') (Blank)
  
• Number of Engines (4)
  
• Engine Power Output (given in HP or Lbs. Thrust) (My form doesn't have this)
  
• Engine Type (2 or 4 Cycle Reciprocating, Electric,
  Turbo - Fan/Prop/Shaft/Jet) (Electric)

How long did your whole process take to get your N number? Just curious because I sent my paperwork in this week.