FAA FLIGHT OVER 400 ft ??

It's a guideline (recommendation) for hobbyists. You can find the laws here.
 
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We can fly over 400 ft? Nice.
 
You can, but it's best for most people to fly below 400 feet AGL.
 
This was asked in a Q & A with the AMA and they stated AMA members were still allowed 400+ flights under some circumstances (the reason is you are a member of an organization with governing rules). If you are not a member of an organization like the AMA you may not fly over 400' is implied. There is no 'law', but it is a strongly recommended but sometimes not feasible. What are you actually agreeing to when registering? No one seems to be able to provide a good explanation.
 
Entire FAA rule thing is a mess, imho.

Seems a 107 pilot has more restrictions and higher penalties than an unlicensed or non-107 pilot does. Whole system is *** backwards. May as well allow anyone to go fly a real plane without any license at all at in day or night conditions, and those suckers holding a valid pilot's license can only fly in daylight and less than 400 feet too (Per 107 rules.).

Dumb FAA.
 
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Entire FAA rule thing is a mess, imho.

Seems a 107 pilot has more restrictions and higher penalties than an unlicensed or non-107 pilot does. Whole system is *** backwards. May as well allow anyone to go fly a real plane without any license at all at in day or night conditions, and those suckers holding a valid pilot's license can only fly in daylight and less than 400 feet too (Per 107 rules.).

Dumb FAA.
The reason Part 107 holders are held to a higher standard is because they are trained professionals. It is the same reason my commercial drivers license has higher penalties than a regular class D license for the same offense.
 
The reason Part 107 holders are held to a higher standard is because they are trained professionals. It is the same reason my commercial drivers license has higher penalties than a regular class D license for the same offense.

Ah, but the DMV doesn't allow unlicensed drivers on the road driving as they like, verses those holding a DMV license (Irrespective of their license class category.) and driving according to the DMV rules.

The current FAA setup allows for unlicensed drone operators, and those with a license are more restricted to follow their rules; hence it's backwards, imho. Class of being a professional or amateur rating isn't part of the FAA ruling as there are some non-licensed pilots who fly better than the 107 licensed ones, i.e. the FPV racers. FAA could have 107A, 107B, etc. but not even holding a license and being allowed to fly willy-nilly is where I'm upset with their thought process against those holding a 107 and "You must do it this way."

A 107 should have less restrictions like maybe night flight, closer to airports, people, altitude ceiling, etc. than those sans license who do it anyway with some CBO blessing. Only 107 benefit is ability to charge as in commercial use; after that it all goes downhill other than bragging rights.
 
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Part 107 license holders can obtain authorization from ATC to fly within certain classes of airspace, whereas a non-license holder will never be granted that access. Might not be a big deal if you live in the middle of Montana, but within the crowded airspace restrictions around most major metro areas, it is a big plus when flying to make an income.
 
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Subpart E—Special Rule for Model Aircraft

Source: Docket FAA-2015-0150, Amdt. 101-9, 81 FR 42208, June 28, 2016, unless otherwise noted.

§101.41 Applicability.

This subpart prescribes rules governing the operation of a model aircraft (or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft) that meets all of the following conditions as set forth in section 336 of Public Law 112-95:

(a) The aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;

(b) The aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;

(c) The aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization;

(d) The aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and

(e) When flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of the operation.

§101.43 Endangering the safety of the National Airspace System.

No person may operate model aircraft so as to endanger the safety of the national airspace system.


Just posting for info to help people that don't know.
 
This was asked in a Q & A with the AMA and they stated AMA members were still allowed 400+ flights under some circumstances (the reason is you are a member of an organization with governing rules). If you are not a member of an organization like the AMA you may not fly over 400' is implied. There is no 'law', but it is a strongly recommended but sometimes not feasible. What are you actually agreeing to when registering? No one seems to be able to provide a good explanation.
No, the FAA recommends that hobby fliers follow the guidelines of a CBO like the AMA. Does not require membership. That is the line that the AMA pushes, but it isn't so.
 
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Ah, but the DMV doesn't allow unlicensed drivers on the road driving as they like, verses those holding a DMV license (Irrespective of their license class category.) and driving according to the DMV rules.

The current FAA setup allows for unlicensed drone operators, and those with a license are more restricted to follow their rules; hence it's backwards, imho. Class of being a professional or amateur rating isn't part of the FAA ruling as there are some non-licensed pilots who fly better than the 107 licensed ones, i.e. the FPV racers. FAA could have 107A, 107B, etc. but not even holding a license and being allowed to fly willy-nilly is where I'm upset with their thought process against those holding a 107 and "You must do it this way."

A 107 should have less restrictions like maybe night flight, closer to airports, people, altitude ceiling, etc. than those sans license who do it anyway with some CBO blessing. Only 107 benefit is ability to charge as in commercial use; after that it all goes downhill other than bragging rights.
EXACTLY
 
Part 107 license holders can obtain authorization from ATC to fly within certain classes of airspace, whereas a non-license holder will never be granted that access. Might not be a big deal if you live in the middle of Montana, but within the crowded airspace restrictions around most major metro areas, it is a big plus when flying to make an income.
As a non-licensed as you call it (hobbyist), you don't need permission to fly in those airspaces. So you are right, it will never be granted. LOL
But you are talking about making money, so I assume all those people would be licensed and therefore have more restrictions placed on you.
 
Subpart E—Special Rule for Model Aircraft

Source: Docket FAA-2015-0150, Amdt. 101-9, 81 FR 42208, June 28, 2016, unless otherwise noted.

§101.41 Applicability.

This subpart prescribes rules governing the operation of a model aircraft (or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft) that meets all of the following conditions as set forth in section 336 of Public Law 112-95:

(a) The aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;

(b) The aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;

(c) The aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization;

(d) The aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and

(e) When flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of the operation.

§101.43 Endangering the safety of the National Airspace System.

No person may operate model aircraft so as to endanger the safety of the national airspace system.


Just posting for info to help people that don't know.


I don't believe Part 101 applies to sUAS. That's why Part 107 was created.
 
Remember, that a lot of these apparent bass-ackward rules for sUASs is due in large part to the congressional mandate that the FAA couldn't regulate hobby RC aviation (applies to all RC aircraft - fixed wing, helos, and quads). So they focused their efforts on putting the Part 107 rules together. Much more manageable than the 333 exemptions and before that, no commercial use was allowed. While there are still a lot of things we would like to see improved, 'we've come along way baby!'
 
This was asked in a Q & A with the AMA and they stated AMA members were still allowed 400+ flights under some circumstances (the reason is you are a member of an organization with governing rules). If you are not a member of an organization like the AMA you may not fly over 400' is implied.

I'm sorry but this is 100% incorrect. It's not even close.

As mentioned above, a hobby flier can fly over 400', period. The AMA does not come into play _at all_.

This has been discussed to death in prior threads and there was even a very long one about a week ago. All of the information about this is in that thread.

If you are not a member of the AMA anything they say does not apply to you, period.
 
No, the FAA recommends that hobby fliers follow the guidelines of a CBO like the AMA. Does not require membership. That is the line that the AMA pushes, but it isn't so.

Yup, the AMA liked that they were called a CBO and liked to let people know this (like it was the magical horn of a unicorn). 1) means next to nothing. 2) means nothing to non-AMA members.
 
I don't believe Part 101 applies to sUAS. That's why Part 107 was created.
Part 101 is model aviation or hobby flying regardless of the type of aircraft.
I don't believe Part 101 applies to sUAS. That's why Part 107 was created.
part 101, subsection E "Special rules for model aircraft". This is for the hobby fliers.
 
I don't believe Part 101 applies to sUAS. That's why Part 107 was created.
Under either rule, the FAA doesn't distinguish between 'aircraft types'. They are all considered to be sUAS.
 

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