Welcome to PhantomPilots.com

Sign up for a weekly email of the latest drone news & information

Can I fly around the USS Detroit?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drestin Black, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    The USS Detroit is going to make it to Detroit, the Ren Cen, tomorrow morning for a couple weeks of tours and ceremony's. Super cool looking.

    Two obvious things:

    A) it'll be on open public waters and so long as I don't fly over boats I'm ok taking flights over water and around boats

    B) it's a US Naval combat ship

    So, wondering... what prohibitions or rules deal with this?

    Meanwhile I WILL be on a small (43' ft) motor boat that will be going toward, along said and trail the ship for ordinary photos with conventional cameras and there are zero.0 restrictions on all of those actions.

    Any UAS or conventional aircraft restrictions I should be aware of? They certainly can't put a NFZ along the entire route it takes across lakes Huron and Saint Clair.

    USS Detroit arrival: How to see the new warship

    Sent from my iPhone using PhantomPilots
     
  2. Lifted Chevy

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    51
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    I'd stay away from war ships imo. The military was notified of quads with explosives or reconnaissance last year and you may set off a bee hive that can and will sting.
     
  3. Sagebrush

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    155
    It may be a great way to get your name in the paper. :cool:

    SB
     
    Easy-V, Reed L and Drestin Black like this.
  4. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    Let's see; I'll be between the ship and a dock full of people waiting for her to pull in at the Detroit Riverfront --- I don't think they'll wanna let rip into the crowd behind me LOL

    I've been looking up regs, etc. Looks like you gotta keep 500 yards away while she's moving. She not officially in service yet and this is a public relations/showoff tour. I think they'll be a little more lax on photos. I don't plan to fly over or too close to her. Several folks I know with planes and boats are already planning trips to her - it's a rare thing to be sure. No TFRs or NOTAMs (Federal Aviation Administration - Graphic TFR's). The boats can call in via VHF, I'll have my skipper ask for drone flyby/over permission and see what they say...
     
    #4 Drestin Black, Oct 14, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2016
  5. Lifted Chevy

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    51
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Yeah it's all about safety so I'd ask for permission first. Holding a camera or cell phone won't get them excited but a flying object that won't come up on radar may change the mood really quickly.
     
    QuadBart likes this.
  6. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    Hmm... I suspect that at such close range I might actually show up on radar and that scares me far worse! Ya know, I am not actively trying to break rules -- it's just that... doesn't it always seem like the coolest things to photograph are the ones that always have some restriction?!

    I know this ain't no freighter, those guys come out and wave and love my flying alongside, coming at them or even right over top. There isn't much my 5 lb drone is gonna do to these iron and steel behemoths and they don't have any real secrets.

    Now, I certainly don't expect permission to go and hover over the USS Detroit (even through wouldn't it be cool to do a landing on their helo deck then quick take off? (stop thinking of it stop thinking of it)) but to do some circles around them 1500 feet out should be of no concern at all! My 450 mm Nikon lens is going to peep WAY WAY more detail than my P4 at 1500+ feet!

    Now - interestingly... they have to pass down the Saint Clair River - there are points where it narrows considerably and the shipping channel is very close to land. You could throw a baseball and hit a passing tanker close. And flying over it is 100% OK (up to the Canadian border - which cuts in half the issue of the river width - you an be 100% certain that a US Naval fighting ship wont' be crossing into Canadian waters). So -- basically, there are places where the ship will be within 100 yards of the shore in open US waters. I could take off from land and hover and I'd be closer
     
  7. Sagebrush

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    155
  8. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    That's DELAWARE not DETROIT.

    Local Coast Guard says no special restrictions for boating or air
     
  9. Sagebrush

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    155
    Isn't that down the street? :mad:

    Okay, I'm busted! Let us know how it goes.

    SB
     
  10. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    I figure I'll be in the papers; either with a great photo of a ship or a stock photo of me (probably with sinister dark glasses and a Detroit Against The World shirt on)
     
  11. Reed L

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2015
    Messages:
    1,273
    Likes Received:
    391
    Location:
    Alta, Ca.
    It will be a great photo, haha...
    Something like this - jail nn.jpg
     
  12. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    My Halloween Costume!



    Sent from my iPad using PhantomPilots
     
    Reed L likes this.
  13. QuadBart

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    115
    Location:
    USA
    Just my .02. If there is no NOTAM against this, I'd try everything I could to contact the proper authorities and ask. If I couldn't get a hold of someone, then I'd skip it. I think its too risky especially with the reports coming out (publicized) of ISIL militarizing small drones. Even if you aren't doing anything wrong I think the risk of negative publicity for drones is a possibility...
     
  14. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    No one minded one bit - heading to location 3 for video [​IMG]


    Sent from my iPhone using PhantomPilots
     
  15. Sagebrush

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    155
    That's a super-great photo!

    Glad you're not in the brig.

    SB
     
  16. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    It was no problem; caught up with them 3 times and got great footage.




    Sent from my iPhone using PhantomPilots
     
    Reed L, LameDuck and GoodnNuff like this.
  17. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    [​IMG]

    Cool looking ship indeed


    Sent from my iPhone using PhantomPilots
     
    Reed L, GoodnNuff and RJ_Make like this.
  18. Southern Oklahoma

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2016
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Southern Oklahoma Ardmore / Marietta area
    enjoyed video and pics. subscribed to you channel as well
     
    Drestin Black likes this.
  19. LameDuck

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Centennial, Colorado
    Nicely done! I loved seeing this, and I'm sure it wasn't a stress-free flight. You had to have been thinking about all the armaments that were likely tracking you.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  20. Drestin Black

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Sterling Heights, MI
    It's a publicity trip, she's coming to Detroit to get commissioned, so they are very open to everyone flying or sailing close by and getting photos and video. During the docking in Detroit, I counted at least half a dozen drones at various times, plus two news choppers. Didn't see any mishaps, all was smooth sailing.