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Best FPV Goggles Solution for P2V or P2V+?

Discussion in 'Phantom 2 Vision + Discussion' started by Jre, May 6, 2014.

  1. Jre

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    At first, the Zeiss Cinemizer OLED Glasses sounded like the best (albeit more expensive [$789]) solution.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... &A=details

    However, I just stumbled upon the Epson Moverio BT-200 Smart Glasses that runs Android 4.0 and has built-in WiFi connectivity for a lesser price of $699.

    http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ ... Cookie=yes
    http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ ... Cookie=yes

    While the Cinemizer Glasses offer higher resolution, they are just HDMI glasses. With the Moverio BT-200 glasses, you could theoretically download the Vision app to them, and use it's trackpad to connect to the camera's WiFi and control the app. Then you wouldn't need to connect adapters and an HDMI cable to your smart phone (along with not being able to see your smartphone to control it / press buttons). This sounds like a perfect solution for the P2V / P2V+, but $699 is a bit expensive to test this theory however. Wonder how much the re-stocking fee is... :roll:
     
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    So with these would you still be able to use smart phone?
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  3. Jre

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    You mean at the same time? Not sure if the P2V/P2V+ lets multiple devices connect to it at the same time. Seems like it wouldn't for conflict reasons. Good way to test is to just download the app on a friend's phone or if you have a tablet or something in addition to your smart phone.

    The glasses come with a smartphone shaped trackpad so in my opinion it's not necessary to use your phone with these & the P2V/P2V+, unless you use the sharing features / send the pictures to your phone (I usually don't).
     
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    So with the track pad you can select features (control the camera, radar, etc) on the app just like using your phone? (no loss of functionality)
     
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    For the past week I've been flying a Vision + and an original Vision with the EPSON BT-200 and I find them far superior to using a smart phone to monitor the camera/telemetry app. I've posted a review http://visual-aerials.com/espon-moverio-bt0-200.html. Basically, these glasses operate as a HUD (Heads Up Display) that projects the DJI Vision app onto the glasses. The camera feed and telemetry "float" in the field of view allowing you to maintain line of sight with your drone and your surroundings while simultaneously having the app display in front of you. Furthermore, you can simply tap the side of the glasses to turn the Heads-Up display off and on.

    Obviously, since the glasses have a full Android system built in it doesn't require a phone or tablet and they are WiFI and Bluetooth connectable so you can use Android apps, a web browser etc.

    I did use the original MOVERIO system with good results for more than a year but always with a regret that the glasses were rather heavy and bulky. EPSON has dramatically reduced the weight and form factor and have significantly brightened the display so that it is a very capable FPV system. Unfortunately, unlike the original version that accepted a composite video in (so I could use them with any FPV setup), this new version only works with the DJI Android app and, thus, only with the P2 Vision products. It is possible an update will allow us to have a separate video input, but for now these are exclusively for VISION owners.

    Those interested in this solution can purchase via the prelaunch website https://www.prelaunch.com/brands/epson/products/smartglasses-fpv?afmc=rU8oBw8t0QpApDrhwvVHkA.

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    Thanks vislaw. Does a dot or cursor appear when you touch the trackpad so that you can visually see where you are touching?
     
  7. Jre

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    Nevermind, I found out that it does from the User's Guide.

    https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd40542.pdf

    What I found from the User's Guide, is that you can do screen mirroring with any Miracast supported device (like Samsung Galaxy S4/S5).
     
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    It looks like you don't NEED to use a smartphone at all. The device itself is Android (with wifi), so you connect to the Vision app directly via the glasses and go. This is very cool.
     
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    Do they offer vision correction like the Cinemizers? I'd like to not to have to use my cheater glasses.
     
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    Hey bigeasysac, I'm not sure what you mean exactly by vision correction, but according to the User's Manual, there are several "screen size"/virtual depth adjustments that you can make.
     
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    I'm looking to purchase some FPV goggles and what i'm interested in is having a wide Field of View.

    The goggles with the widest FOV that I've been able to find so far are the FatShark DominatorHD's that are not out yet with a 45 degree FOV. Fat Shark Base have 35 degree FOV and the others all seem to have 20-25.
     
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    The Radar/Map feature in the Vision app uses the smartphone's GPS for precision location. So that would be a functionality loss with these Epson glasses since it doesn't have GPS. And along those lines, Ground Station probably won't work with them either. Unless of course you just use your smartphone and mirror the screen to the glasses.
     
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    Hmm, no, page 35 of the user manual explicitly states it has a GPS and other sensors. It is in fact a fully-equipped Android device similar to what a tablet would offer. https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd40542.pdf

    Sensors: GPS/magnetometer/accelerometer/gyroscope
     
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    Oh ****, my bad. Good catch. Completely missed that it offers GPS.

    So these things rock and appear to be a near perfect FPV solution then. Just need to get my money situation straight and they'll be mine.